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I believe it was a licensed MD who prescribed Ivermectin to him. It might be that we all have some parasites that worsen COVID immune reactions.

wat10000 1y ago
What do you call someone who graduates last in their class in medical school? “Doctor.” There’s no shortage of credentialed quacks out there.
- Calavar 1y ago
  It's not about lack of knowledge, it's greed. For doctors with flexible morals, garbage medicine is a shortcut to wealth. Since non evidence based treatments aren't covered by health insurance, these practices are cash only. And cash only = $$$ because the doctor is getting the full payment and not just a fraction of it. Dr. Oz is a good example. He was a CT surgeon at Columbia, which is considered the mecca for American CT surgery. But even if you are at the very top of your field as a doctor, there will be a cap on wealth, and you will never find fame. Oz gave up surgery, started hawking essential oils and is now very likely the only CT surgeon in the country with a net worth in the 9 figures.
bamboozled 1y ago
Yet there was zero evidence to suggest it would work for COVID, and people like him going around saying it worked, or they had "good results", based on nothing. Then they caused a shortage of the drug in places it was needed. So he actually caused harm with his BS. I also got a fairly early strain of COVID and didn't have Ivermectin and I got over it pretty easily too? I just thought I pushed it too hard in the gym and felt a bit tired. My cousin got it, ended up in hospital on Oxygen. Joe Rogan is just a fool and a propagandist.
- transcriptase 1y ago
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  - bamboozled 1y ago
    I didn't say the response was perfect and all advice was accurate, but neither is selling bullshit like Ivermectin for COVID with zero evidence it was effective. It's wild to suggest the best way to deal with the next pandemic is less science, less experts. No it's more science and more experts, that's what's required to solve the next pandemic and climate change, and super bugs and more. Your comment seems to suggest that we should throw away all knowledge and faith in institutions because the knowledge we had at the time of a very dynamic situation wasn't perfect or to your liking. It's painful to read honestly. Next pandemic, we should just try random off the shell treatments until we find something that sticks I guess. Screw the experts?
    - transcriptase 1y ago
      No. Next time people like yourself should listen to what he actually said about certain topics versus what you were told he said by those with an axe to grind. Then you might temper your language and accusations of propaganda, or at least properly aim them in the opposite direction.
      - bamboozled 1y ago
        Since 2016 I've listened to hundreds of hours of his podcast, maybe more. He is a useful idiot. At this point he has to know that, but continues doing what he does for the money. He is an entertainer and his show is entertaining, sure, but that is all it is. It's not factual, he does no journalism, he will repeat whatever nonsense suits his world view. I now listen to it just to see what kind of BS I should expect to find in my daily interactions with other "bros. If you think he is offering some kind of alternative view point to the MSM, you've just not realized he is the MSM. He is the "swamp".
        transcriptase 1y ago
        Ah, now we get to the crux of it. Despite him being a comedian, who hosts a podcast in pretty much the same format he has since 2009, just doing unscripted long-form unedited with friends and people he finds interesting, and despite him saying ten thousand times he’s not an expert and not to take his advice just because something worked for him: You’ll now pivot to some narrative that because he’s popular and people might take the wrong message away that he has a duty not to talk about certain things, not have certain people on, have others on to balance it out when someone says false things, push back on his guests and argue with them etc.
- zoklet-enjoyer 1y ago
  iirc, this is what caused the hype with ivermectin. I went to Fleet Farm and bought several tubes as soon as I read this. Because why not? By the time the Joe Rogan types started talking about it, my stash was already expired. I've periodically taken it when I've been exposed to bed bugs and fleas. And as a preventative thing when I'm going into areas with a lot of ticks. The apple flavored horse paste is nasty. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016635422...
smallerfish 1y ago
Yes, and there are licensed MDs working for RFK specifically to demonize vaccines (while there are many other licensed MDs who see vaccines as being very positive and efficacious). A license doesn't make you right.
- ImHereToVote 1y ago
  I would rather trust an MD over a rando on the Internet sorry.
  - kennywinker 1y ago
    Which licensed MD? If there are 100 licensed MDs telling you it’s BS, and 1 telling you it’s a miracle cure…
ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
Get involved in sports and you'll learn you can find a crooked doctor to prescribe anything and I mean ANYTHING.

wat10000 1y ago

What do you call someone who graduates last in their class in medical school? “Doctor.” There’s no shortage of credentialed quacks out there.

Calavar 1y ago
It's not about lack of knowledge, it's greed. For doctors with flexible morals, garbage medicine is a shortcut to wealth. Since non evidence based treatments aren't covered by health insurance, these practices are cash only. And cash only = $$$ because the doctor is getting the full payment and not just a fraction of it. Dr. Oz is a good example. He was a CT surgeon at Columbia, which is considered the mecca for American CT surgery. But even if you are at the very top of your field as a doctor, there will be a cap on wealth, and you will never find fame. Oz gave up surgery, started hawking essential oils and is now very likely the only CT surgeon in the country with a net worth in the 9 figures.

bamboozled 1y ago

Yet there was zero evidence to suggest it would work for COVID, and people like him going around saying it worked, or they had "good results", based on nothing. Then they caused a shortage of the drug in places it was needed. So he actually caused harm with his BS. I also got a fairly early strain of COVID and didn't have Ivermectin and I got over it pretty easily too? I just thought I pushed it too hard in the gym and felt a bit tired. My cousin got it, ended up in hospital on Oxygen. Joe Rogan is just a fool and a propagandist.

transcriptase 1y ago
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- bamboozled 1y ago
  I didn't say the response was perfect and all advice was accurate, but neither is selling bullshit like Ivermectin for COVID with zero evidence it was effective. It's wild to suggest the best way to deal with the next pandemic is less science, less experts. No it's more science and more experts, that's what's required to solve the next pandemic and climate change, and super bugs and more. Your comment seems to suggest that we should throw away all knowledge and faith in institutions because the knowledge we had at the time of a very dynamic situation wasn't perfect or to your liking. It's painful to read honestly. Next pandemic, we should just try random off the shell treatments until we find something that sticks I guess. Screw the experts?
  - transcriptase 1y ago
    No. Next time people like yourself should listen to what he actually said about certain topics versus what you were told he said by those with an axe to grind. Then you might temper your language and accusations of propaganda, or at least properly aim them in the opposite direction.
    - bamboozled 1y ago
      Since 2016 I've listened to hundreds of hours of his podcast, maybe more. He is a useful idiot. At this point he has to know that, but continues doing what he does for the money. He is an entertainer and his show is entertaining, sure, but that is all it is. It's not factual, he does no journalism, he will repeat whatever nonsense suits his world view. I now listen to it just to see what kind of BS I should expect to find in my daily interactions with other "bros. If you think he is offering some kind of alternative view point to the MSM, you've just not realized he is the MSM. He is the "swamp".
      - transcriptase 1y ago
        Ah, now we get to the crux of it. Despite him being a comedian, who hosts a podcast in pretty much the same format he has since 2009, just doing unscripted long-form unedited with friends and people he finds interesting, and despite him saying ten thousand times he’s not an expert and not to take his advice just because something worked for him: You’ll now pivot to some narrative that because he’s popular and people might take the wrong message away that he has a duty not to talk about certain things, not have certain people on, have others on to balance it out when someone says false things, push back on his guests and argue with them etc.
zoklet-enjoyer 1y ago
iirc, this is what caused the hype with ivermectin. I went to Fleet Farm and bought several tubes as soon as I read this. Because why not? By the time the Joe Rogan types started talking about it, my stash was already expired. I've periodically taken it when I've been exposed to bed bugs and fleas. And as a preventative thing when I'm going into areas with a lot of ticks. The apple flavored horse paste is nasty. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016635422...

smallerfish 1y ago

Yes, and there are licensed MDs working for RFK specifically to demonize vaccines (while there are many other licensed MDs who see vaccines as being very positive and efficacious). A license doesn't make you right.

ImHereToVote 1y ago
I would rather trust an MD over a rando on the Internet sorry.
- kennywinker 1y ago
  Which licensed MD? If there are 100 licensed MDs telling you it’s BS, and 1 telling you it’s a miracle cure…

ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago

Get involved in sports and you'll learn you can find a crooked doctor to prescribe anything and I mean ANYTHING.