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In my experience, working with plastic surgery offices will certainly impact your desire to get a motorcycle. Wear helmets and gear up, everyone. Also this is

by adzm 1y ago

In my experience, working with plastic surgery offices will certainly impact your desire to get a motorcycle. Wear helmets and gear up, everyone. Also this is a truly well done video. Entertaining, week executed, witty dialogue.

rjsw 1y ago
Or work with any area of disabled sport, the two main routes into it for participants are the armed forces and motorbikes.
lm28469 1y ago
People working in hospitals would rather have their kids smoke crack than ride motorcycles from what I personally gathered.
- diggan 1y ago
  Sounds like they would need to read up on "guaranteed effects" vs "probable events" if that's the case.
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frereubu 1y ago
I would love to get a motorbike - I enjoy cycling and love speed - but I've had three people in my wider circle of friends suffer life-changing injuries while riding motorbikes, including one just before his wedding that they had to cancel because he was in hospital. They were all careful riders too, the incidents being caused by distracted / aggressive drivers. The odds just don't stack up for me.
- diggan 1y ago
  > They were all careful riders too, the incidents being caused by distracted / aggressive drivers. I'm not sure how true that is, even when the cause is distracted/aggressive drivers, unless the drivers actually hunted them and collided with them on purpose. Defensive driving is a thing for motorcycle drivers too, and if you take care you'll avoid even distracted/aggressive drivers too. With that said, it of course isn't risk free, I think in my country (Spain, lots of motorcycles in/around the cities/towns), just about 60% of those who drive motorcycles have never been in any accident ever[0], and that's including very dumb ("average") people so if you're more careful than the average driver, I'm sure you could get those odds to stack in your favor. - [0] https://www.dgt.es/export/sites/web-DGT/.galleries/downloads/conoce_la_dgt/que-hacemos/conocimiento-e-investigacion/INFORME-ESTUDIO-MOTOS_DGT_V8-Accesible.pdf https://www.dgt.es/export/sites/web-DGT/.galleries/downloads... Table 59. "ACCIDENTALIDAD"
  - lloeki 1y ago
    > I'm not sure how true that is, even when the cause is distracted/aggressive drivers Very. It's possible to make no mistake and still lose. My wife got hit-and-run when bicycling to work and she's exceeding careful and defensive in her riding. Her carefulness is probably what allowed her to catch a glimpse of the car in the corner of her eye and swerve at the last minute to not be caught head-on by the car and sent flying hundreds of meters away. She's "lucky" to even have made it, suffering debilitating neck pain every day and night, abated only by roughly a half through invasive surgery, a pain she will have to endure for the rest of her life which at the current rate of life expectancy is the next fifty years. Meanwhile the distracted and hurried driver who didn't bother to check around their A pillar blind spot drove away scot-free. That's one example. I have many such stories of cyclist and biker friends alike, many of which don't ever ride between lanes.
    - diggan 1y ago
      > It's possible to make no mistake and still lose. Sure, no doubt about that. But again, if people (60% of the riders in my case) manage to never be in an accident, and that's including a wide range of people, then surely the odds are greater of never being in an accident if you're careful. Still, sucks she had that experience. But it's important to realize that for every accident, there are thousands of people riding every day without a single accident in their life. But of course it's harder to think about that when you had someone in a accident and that person is close to you, I understand that.
      - lloeki 1y ago
        I don't think anyone's disputing that being careful increases your odds of avoiding accidents. Instead what I wanted to call out is that even if infinitely careful and drive defensively without fail you can still get into an accident, and you don't need to be hunted down or intentionally collided into+. Ultimately at a large enough scale it's all about odds, and it takes but one occurrence to go from "I've been fine so far" to "my life is upended". And like all statistical things, with a low enough sample size you're going to get an unbalanced result one way or the other. + On that note I wish drivers were made aware of CBDR https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_bearing,_decreasing_range https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_bearing,_decreasing...
- AdrianB1 1y ago
  Go offroad. For me, after 20 years on motorcycles, it is more interesting to cross the mountains than to cross the continent on 2 wheels and I did both, several times. I ride on the road only when needed, when I want to have fun I leave the asphalt. On a bicycle it is even more clear: I never liked riding on roads, I used to race amateur XC competitions for ~ 10 years. As much fun as it can be.
xlii 1y ago
Isn't it true for every occupation that deals with the falloff of any activity? E.g. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/01/19/spanish-judge-rules-meta-content-moderator-s-trauma-a-work-related-injury_6447788_4.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/01/19/s...
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monster_truck 1y ago
Recently had to deal with some unusual wisdom tooth bullshit, they sent me to a fancy oral surgeon who deals with the unusual. Guy sitting next to me in the lobby had his whole face caved in when he crashed his motorcycle (no helmet), he looked completely normal! The 'before' xrays he showed me on his phone were gruesome, completely unrecognizable as a human skull. Wear a helmet.

by adzm 1y ago

rjsw 1y ago

Or work with any area of disabled sport, the two main routes into it for participants are the armed forces and motorbikes.

lm28469 1y ago

People working in hospitals would rather have their kids smoke crack than ride motorcycles from what I personally gathered.

diggan 1y ago
Sounds like they would need to read up on "guaranteed effects" vs "probable events" if that's the case.
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frereubu 1y ago

I would love to get a motorbike - I enjoy cycling and love speed - but I've had three people in my wider circle of friends suffer life-changing injuries while riding motorbikes, including one just before his wedding that they had to cancel because he was in hospital. They were all careful riders too, the incidents being caused by distracted / aggressive drivers. The odds just don't stack up for me.

diggan 1y ago
> They were all careful riders too, the incidents being caused by distracted / aggressive drivers. I'm not sure how true that is, even when the cause is distracted/aggressive drivers, unless the drivers actually hunted them and collided with them on purpose. Defensive driving is a thing for motorcycle drivers too, and if you take care you'll avoid even distracted/aggressive drivers too. With that said, it of course isn't risk free, I think in my country (Spain, lots of motorcycles in/around the cities/towns), just about 60% of those who drive motorcycles have never been in any accident ever[0], and that's including very dumb ("average") people so if you're more careful than the average driver, I'm sure you could get those odds to stack in your favor. - [0] https://www.dgt.es/export/sites/web-DGT/.galleries/downloads/conoce_la_dgt/que-hacemos/conocimiento-e-investigacion/INFORME-ESTUDIO-MOTOS_DGT_V8-Accesible.pdf https://www.dgt.es/export/sites/web-DGT/.galleries/downloads... Table 59. "ACCIDENTALIDAD"
- lloeki 1y ago
  > I'm not sure how true that is, even when the cause is distracted/aggressive drivers Very. It's possible to make no mistake and still lose. My wife got hit-and-run when bicycling to work and she's exceeding careful and defensive in her riding. Her carefulness is probably what allowed her to catch a glimpse of the car in the corner of her eye and swerve at the last minute to not be caught head-on by the car and sent flying hundreds of meters away. She's "lucky" to even have made it, suffering debilitating neck pain every day and night, abated only by roughly a half through invasive surgery, a pain she will have to endure for the rest of her life which at the current rate of life expectancy is the next fifty years. Meanwhile the distracted and hurried driver who didn't bother to check around their A pillar blind spot drove away scot-free. That's one example. I have many such stories of cyclist and biker friends alike, many of which don't ever ride between lanes.
  - diggan 1y ago
    > It's possible to make no mistake and still lose. Sure, no doubt about that. But again, if people (60% of the riders in my case) manage to never be in an accident, and that's including a wide range of people, then surely the odds are greater of never being in an accident if you're careful. Still, sucks she had that experience. But it's important to realize that for every accident, there are thousands of people riding every day without a single accident in their life. But of course it's harder to think about that when you had someone in a accident and that person is close to you, I understand that.
    - lloeki 1y ago
      I don't think anyone's disputing that being careful increases your odds of avoiding accidents. Instead what I wanted to call out is that even if infinitely careful and drive defensively without fail you can still get into an accident, and you don't need to be hunted down or intentionally collided into+. Ultimately at a large enough scale it's all about odds, and it takes but one occurrence to go from "I've been fine so far" to "my life is upended". And like all statistical things, with a low enough sample size you're going to get an unbalanced result one way or the other. + On that note I wish drivers were made aware of CBDR https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_bearing,_decreasing_range https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_bearing,_decreasing...
AdrianB1 1y ago
Go offroad. For me, after 20 years on motorcycles, it is more interesting to cross the mountains than to cross the continent on 2 wheels and I did both, several times. I ride on the road only when needed, when I want to have fun I leave the asphalt. On a bicycle it is even more clear: I never liked riding on roads, I used to race amateur XC competitions for ~ 10 years. As much fun as it can be.

xlii 1y ago

Isn't it true for every occupation that deals with the falloff of any activity? E.g. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/01/19/spanish-judge-rules-meta-content-moderator-s-trauma-a-work-related-injury_6447788_4.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/01/19/s...

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monster_truck 1y ago

Recently had to deal with some unusual wisdom tooth bullshit, they sent me to a fancy oral surgeon who deals with the unusual. Guy sitting next to me in the lobby had his whole face caved in when he crashed his motorcycle (no helmet), he looked completely normal! The 'before' xrays he showed me on his phone were gruesome, completely unrecognizable as a human skull. Wear a helmet.