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It's USA stuff now. The voters spoke. Remember, they won't need to vote again. That's the promise.

by quantified 1y ago

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 1y ago
> That's the promise [Citation needed]
- throw123xz 1y ago
  July 28, 2024: > Trump said: "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians." Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they-wont-have-vote-after-this-election-2024-07-27/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they... And the video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y7b4r1FIG-A https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y7b4r1FIG-A
  - Izkata 1y ago
    He's talking to people who don't normally pay attention to politics, but are now because of the economic problems they're facing. He's saying once he fixes those problems, they can go back to not paying attention to politics.
    - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
      Are U.S. voters really that stupid?
      - quantified 1y ago
        Yes. Education, critical thinking are not a priority. You will note that business leaders, especially the tech ones like marca, Thiel, Zuckerberg, cheer this on too.
      - ethersteeds 1y ago
        Since they've been told climate change is a hoax, republican voters in the US have needed an explanation for the dramatic increase in the frequency/severity of severe weather events. They have flocked to the conspiracy theory that Democrats are using geo engineering to manipulate the weather for political ends and to make climate change "real". Lest you dismiss this as the folly of the very online, states are passing laws against weather manipulation in response. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-push-bills-stop-government-weather-modification-chemtrails-rcna220045 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-p... So uh yeah, really that stupid. At least enough of them to be statistically relevant in a two-party system.
      - quantified 1y ago
        They worry about, and elect political representatives that try to act on, schoolchildren that identify as cats and have litter boxes in classrooms for them. Rather lacking in any sense whatsoever, just repeating random lies like truth. On the other side of the political spectrum, they might also get up in arms because federal officials in remote areas use horses to travel in rough terrain, off road. It's not limited to one side,though I'd say quite tilted.
    - consumer451 1y ago
      > He's talking to people who don't normally pay attention to politics ... He's saying once he fixes those problems, they can go back to not paying attention to politics. From 2015: > Based on my research, Christians are much more likely to vote than non-Christians. https://scholarworks.sfasu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1194&context=urc https://scholarworks.sfasu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&...
imglorp 1y ago
I didn't understand anyone voting for that in particular. Policy questions of all sorts, we can all discuss: that's called democracy. But when someone promises to end your participation, you have surrendered all agency to them which has never worked out well in history.
- quantified 1y ago
  The voters clearly voted for Trump to do whatever he wants. They voted for him to thoroughly realign the government to follow his policy and his narrative, to root out the "deep state". Obviously anyone who publishes numbers that look bad is trying to undermine him. How many of his voters disagree with this agenda?
- AlecSchueler 1y ago
  Not to defend him but he wasn't saying there wouldn't be another election or and end to participatory democracy, only that on the certain issues he was speaking about he would make such heavy changes that it would be completely done within this term and no future president would have to worry about it.
  - quantified 1y ago
    So completely done that it can't be undone.
  - quantified 1y ago
    Also, their tactic has been to accuse the other side of the thing they're going to do. So, what's up with counting the vote now? You don't need to vote if it's rigged for you.
amy_petrik 1y ago
>hub-center steering, well I mean, the choices war to have a Stalinist style strongman to pull things like this, vs a Marxist style / "Committee of Public Safety" type power cabal scapegoating all things white, hetero, male, and nativist. Say what you will about Trump but he heard the people crying out while the other side was deaf.

It's USA stuff now. The voters spoke. Remember, they won't need to vote again. That's the promise.

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 1y ago

> That's the promise [Citation needed]

throw123xz 1y ago
July 28, 2024: > Trump said: "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians." Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they-wont-have-vote-after-this-election-2024-07-27/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they... And the video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y7b4r1FIG-A https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y7b4r1FIG-A
- Izkata 1y ago
  He's talking to people who don't normally pay attention to politics, but are now because of the economic problems they're facing. He's saying once he fixes those problems, they can go back to not paying attention to politics.
  - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
    Are U.S. voters really that stupid?
    - quantified 1y ago
      Yes. Education, critical thinking are not a priority. You will note that business leaders, especially the tech ones like marca, Thiel, Zuckerberg, cheer this on too.
    - ethersteeds 1y ago
      Since they've been told climate change is a hoax, republican voters in the US have needed an explanation for the dramatic increase in the frequency/severity of severe weather events. They have flocked to the conspiracy theory that Democrats are using geo engineering to manipulate the weather for political ends and to make climate change "real". Lest you dismiss this as the folly of the very online, states are passing laws against weather manipulation in response. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-push-bills-stop-government-weather-modification-chemtrails-rcna220045 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-p... So uh yeah, really that stupid. At least enough of them to be statistically relevant in a two-party system.
    - quantified 1y ago
      They worry about, and elect political representatives that try to act on, schoolchildren that identify as cats and have litter boxes in classrooms for them. Rather lacking in any sense whatsoever, just repeating random lies like truth. On the other side of the political spectrum, they might also get up in arms because federal officials in remote areas use horses to travel in rough terrain, off road. It's not limited to one side,though I'd say quite tilted.
  - consumer451 1y ago
    > He's talking to people who don't normally pay attention to politics ... He's saying once he fixes those problems, they can go back to not paying attention to politics. From 2015: > Based on my research, Christians are much more likely to vote than non-Christians. https://scholarworks.sfasu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1194&context=urc https://scholarworks.sfasu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&...

imglorp 1y ago

I didn't understand anyone voting for that in particular. Policy questions of all sorts, we can all discuss: that's called democracy. But when someone promises to end your participation, you have surrendered all agency to them which has never worked out well in history.

quantified 1y ago
The voters clearly voted for Trump to do whatever he wants. They voted for him to thoroughly realign the government to follow his policy and his narrative, to root out the "deep state". Obviously anyone who publishes numbers that look bad is trying to undermine him. How many of his voters disagree with this agenda?
AlecSchueler 1y ago
Not to defend him but he wasn't saying there wouldn't be another election or and end to participatory democracy, only that on the certain issues he was speaking about he would make such heavy changes that it would be completely done within this term and no future president would have to worry about it.
- quantified 1y ago
  So completely done that it can't be undone.
- quantified 1y ago
  Also, their tactic has been to accuse the other side of the thing they're going to do. So, what's up with counting the vote now? You don't need to vote if it's rigged for you.

amy_petrik 1y ago

>hub-center steering, well I mean, the choices war to have a Stalinist style strongman to pull things like this, vs a Marxist style / "Committee of Public Safety" type power cabal scapegoating all things white, hetero, male, and nativist. Say what you will about Trump but he heard the people crying out while the other side was deaf.