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This is USSR / North Korea stuff
by steeve 1y ago
This is USSR / North Korea stuff
- LtWorf 1y agoI struggle to believe they're as bad as our propaganda wants us to believe.
- jiggawatts 1y agoIt's complicated. I've lived in an eastern European communist country, escaped as a political refugee, and then lived in several western countries. Communist countries at least could house everyone. They more or less had to, because most of them are too cold in winter for the homeless to survive. Education was generally free and quite good. Etc... But... my dad was dragged off one day and beaten black and blue by the secret police for engaging in "anti-communist capitalist activities". He was tutoring students after school for a bit of cash. Meanwhile, in the world's richest third-world country, the United States, people with the wrong skin colour are being dragged out of their homes and thrown into concentration camps in another country. Breaking a leg can bankrupt you. You hear stories of NK refugees hating their new life in SK because it's too competitive and they can't keep up with the constant go-go-go business culture. I also saw smuggled(!) videos of children in NK picking up individual grains of rice that fell in between the railway tracks at the local shunting yard. So you know... hustle culture, or that. I personally remember driving to a shopping centre and standing in line outside right before it opened so my Mom could buy me rain boots. Her friend that worked there had called her at 6am telling her to hurry because they had them in stock for the first (and only) time that year. But... on my recent holiday to the US I was shocked to see how tense police officers looked compared to anywhere else in the world. I witnessed a traffic accident, and the cops that turned up looked like they were ready to draw their weapons and start blasting at any second. They were all kitted out in body armour and had their hands on their weapons at all times. Scanning the crowd non-stop. Where I live, cops are friendly and will high-five my kid and pose for selfies. The US feels more like an outdoor prison to me.
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- singleshot_ 1y ago> I don’t know The root of the problem. With a functioning due process regime, we would.
- AlotOfReading 1y ago> From how it’s stated, I would expect on the order of at least 5% of non-whites to be imprisoned. Based on current demographic numbers, you would require almost 7 million people to be imprisoned before you'll accept that authorities are targeting minorities? That's more than 3x the current numbers and 60% of the global incarcerated population. You're not being intellectually honest with that argument.
- phonon 1y ago"Today, a federal court found that the federal government’s ongoing immigration raids in Southern California and its denial of access to counsel for arrested immigrants likely violated the Constitution, and issued two temporary restraining orders (TRO) prohibiting the federal government, including the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), from continuing its unlawful actions in Los Angeles and surrounding counties. The first TRO bars immigration agents from stopping individuals without reasonable suspicion and from relying on four factors – alone or in combination – including apparent race or ethnicity; speaking Spanish or English with an accent; presence in a particular location like a bus stop, car wash, or agricultural site; or the work the person does. The second TRO orders DHS to provide access to counsel on weekdays, weekends, and holidays for people who are detained in B-18, the federal building in downtown Los Angeles."[0] "A federal judge in California has temporarily blocked Donald Trump’s administration from revoking deportation protections for tens of thousands of immigrants from Honduras, Nepal and Nicaragua. A searing 37-page ruling argued that a decision by Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem to cancel those temporary humanitarian protections appeared partially rooted in “racial and discriminatory animus.” “Color is neither a poison nor a crime,” stated the ruling from District Judge Trina Thompson, who was appointed by former President Joe Biden."[1] [0]https://www.aclusocal.org/en/press-releases/court-prohibits-federal-government-racial-profiling-denying-access-counsel https://www.aclusocal.org/en/press-releases/court-prohibits-... [1]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kristi-noem-judge-racism-honduras-nepal-nicaragua-migrants-b2800427.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...
- CyberDildonics 1y agoThis is a statement of fact that you're referring to as propaganda.
- LtWorf 1y agoIt's funny and telling you believe we don't get propaganda. They are doing a really good job! But think about it… according to our media russia was out of weapons and food 3 years ago. How did ukraine not invade moscow if the russians are all dead? Could it be… because it was propaganda?
- CyberDildonics 1y agoIt's funny and telling you believe we don't get propaganda. No one said that. They are doing a really good job! Who is they in your scenario here? Are you disputing that this person was fired? The difference is always facts and evidence. What facts and evidence do you have to present?
- LtWorf 1y agoUkraine didn't invade moscow → the constant stream of news telling us how russia was defeated 3 years ago was propaganda. Is it clear enough?
- CyberDildonics 1y agoThis story is about trump firing the statistics chief because he didn't like the data. I have no idea what you are talking about.
- LtWorf 1y agoNo you argued against me on "we don't have propaganda"
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- quantified 1y agoIt's USA stuff now. The voters spoke. Remember, they won't need to vote again. That's the promise.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 1y ago> That's the promise [Citation needed]
- throw123xz 1y agoJuly 28, 2024: > Trump said: "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians." Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they-wont-have-vote-after-this-election-2024-07-27/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they... And the video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y7b4r1FIG-A https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y7b4r1FIG-A
- Izkata 1y agoHe's talking to people who don't normally pay attention to politics, but are now because of the economic problems they're facing. He's saying once he fixes those problems, they can go back to not paying attention to politics.
- ndsipa_pomu 1y agoAre U.S. voters really that stupid?
- quantified 1y agoYes. Education, critical thinking are not a priority. You will note that business leaders, especially the tech ones like marca, Thiel, Zuckerberg, cheer this on too.
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- mcphage 1y ago> Unless you believe operating like this what makes Russia or North Korea poorer than the USA, which I think is very dubious. Rejecting people who look at reality with people who tell the leader what they want to hear is a big part of why Russia and North Korea are so less successful than the US, yeah. I don’t think that’s dubious, or even uncertain.
- edmundsauto 1y agoI think one of the reasons the USSR centrally planned economy failed was because they couldn’t get accurate data from satellite sources, meaning there was no chance to make good decisions.
- rsynnott 1y agoIt generally hasn't worked out great for anyone else, though. The obvious modern parallel is Turkey, where Erdogan, rather than dealing with bad numbers, just faked the numbers. And forced down interest rates. Today, Turkey's inflation rate is 35%, though in fairness that's a decent reduction from the nearly 100% it was seeing a couple years ago.
- smitty1e 1y agoHas been for a very long time. Consider the Rule of Seven[1] against the historical data. [1] https://www.brainbok.com/guide/pm-study-notes/rule-of-seven-control-charts/ https://www.brainbok.com/guide/pm-study-notes/rule-of-seven-...