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democrats didn’t need as they controlled those institutions. they however did it to the police to punish them just like trump did to school. For education, It w

democrats didn’t need as they controlled those institutions. they however did it to the police to punish them just like trump did to school. For education, It was their funding and they put in power the people that did the coercion, lied on their resume and instead of having the will to educate the students just pushed down their throats propaganda. if you were against BLM or even a bit vocal about the tactics and negative things they were doing your carrier / studies would have ended and violence was also physically ok. why do you think no major company care about it anymore? why diversity HR teams or Sustainability teams are getting disbanded? why do we have “sydney sweeney has good jeans” ads now while we had overweight models during biden Era? we are living through a different propaganda era that the market decided to follow like the previous one just to bank on it.

ModernMech 1y ago
Democrats don't actually control those universities though. That's like saying Republicans control churches because churchgoers are more conservative on average. But we all know the Republican party isn't actually directing churches across the country, just as Democrats aren't directing universities. So I don't see what kind of precedent was set as far as use of executive power goes. You're saying because BLM happened (which was under Trump BTW), that gives Trump the right now to control speech at universities?
- rahimnathwani 1y ago
  That's like saying Republicans control churches because churchgoers are more conservative on average. Anyone can walk into a church and become part of the congregation. Universities have gatekeepers.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    There are many paths to college, and they require neither membership in nor adherence to ideals professed by the Democratic party. College campuses across America have people from every demographic axis - every race, religion, ethnicity, country, socioeconomic status, etc. Amongst them frequently are conservatives and white men. This is because the gate universities keep is based on merit, not ideology. Indeed, many Republican congresspeople were accepted into and graduated from prestigious ostensibly "Democrat controlled" institutions, despite their conservative beliefs.
    - rahimnathwani 1y ago
      This is because the gate universities keep is based on merit, not ideology. Many US universities have required prospective employees to demonstrate their adherence to preferred ideological stances, during processes for hiring and promotion. This is widely documented: https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/fire-statement-use-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-criteria-faculty-hiring-and https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/fire-statement-use-di... I have read information about these mandatory statements on official web sites of universities themselves, so I know the issue isn't a fabrication. Separately, SCOTUS found in both SFFA vs. Harvard and SFFA vs. UNC, that these universities did not admit students based solely on merit, but also discriminated against some individual students due to their race. Amongst them frequently are conservatives and white men. Funny you should say that. A few days ago, a conservative white man filed a complaint against Cornell. He alleges (supported by written evidence) that Cornell deliberately set out to hire a non-white person for a particular role, and did so by making a shortlist of candidates without even advertising the role. More details here: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/cornell-university-discriminated-against-me-1e2d6a1e https://www.wsj.com/opinion/cornell-university-discriminated...
      - ModernMech 1y ago
        > Many US universities have required prospective employees to demonstrate their adherence to preferred ideological stances, during processes for hiring and promotion That does not mean the Democrats control hiring decisions at universities. This would be like saying the Republican party controls CFO hiring decisions because corporations might filter for people who are fiscally conservative. All organizations look for "culture fit" when making hiring decisions, and the culture of a university is one that is typically open and accepting of people from all walks of life. It's counterproductive to hire who think "empathy is a fundamental weakness" for example. They don't fit well with fostering a welcoming educational environment for young people, so typically we look for some degree of empathy in candidates, people who want to build community, foster individuals, and yes, who value diversity. Notably, this filter is not very good at preventing conservatives from being hired and promoted and admitted to universities, because that happens every day. > but also discriminated against some individual students due to their race. This thread is about Democrats ostensibly controlling schools. That some schools were found by a court to racially discriminate in their admitting practices is unrelated, nor does not show affiliation to the Democratic party was used as a filter for hiring or admit decisions. > a conservative white man filed a complaint against Cornell. Well, no. From the link you provided: I’m an evolutionary biologist, a liberal Anyway, diversity statements were never about being a political litmus test. Diverse hiring pools are not a white filter. These are just something butthurt people say when they get an outcome they don't like. This seems more a case of a failed scientist being rejected for a tenure track role and blaming discrimination instead of his middling research agenda.
UncleMeat 1y ago
Democrats don't control these institutions. Look at who is on the boards of these universities (both public and private).

ModernMech 1y ago

Democrats don't actually control those universities though. That's like saying Republicans control churches because churchgoers are more conservative on average. But we all know the Republican party isn't actually directing churches across the country, just as Democrats aren't directing universities. So I don't see what kind of precedent was set as far as use of executive power goes. You're saying because BLM happened (which was under Trump BTW), that gives Trump the right now to control speech at universities?

rahimnathwani 1y ago
That's like saying Republicans control churches because churchgoers are more conservative on average. Anyone can walk into a church and become part of the congregation. Universities have gatekeepers.
- ModernMech 1y ago
  There are many paths to college, and they require neither membership in nor adherence to ideals professed by the Democratic party. College campuses across America have people from every demographic axis - every race, religion, ethnicity, country, socioeconomic status, etc. Amongst them frequently are conservatives and white men. This is because the gate universities keep is based on merit, not ideology. Indeed, many Republican congresspeople were accepted into and graduated from prestigious ostensibly "Democrat controlled" institutions, despite their conservative beliefs.
  - rahimnathwani 1y ago
    This is because the gate universities keep is based on merit, not ideology. Many US universities have required prospective employees to demonstrate their adherence to preferred ideological stances, during processes for hiring and promotion. This is widely documented: https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/fire-statement-use-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-criteria-faculty-hiring-and https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/fire-statement-use-di... I have read information about these mandatory statements on official web sites of universities themselves, so I know the issue isn't a fabrication. Separately, SCOTUS found in both SFFA vs. Harvard and SFFA vs. UNC, that these universities did not admit students based solely on merit, but also discriminated against some individual students due to their race. Amongst them frequently are conservatives and white men. Funny you should say that. A few days ago, a conservative white man filed a complaint against Cornell. He alleges (supported by written evidence) that Cornell deliberately set out to hire a non-white person for a particular role, and did so by making a shortlist of candidates without even advertising the role. More details here: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/cornell-university-discriminated-against-me-1e2d6a1e https://www.wsj.com/opinion/cornell-university-discriminated...
    - ModernMech 1y ago
      > Many US universities have required prospective employees to demonstrate their adherence to preferred ideological stances, during processes for hiring and promotion That does not mean the Democrats control hiring decisions at universities. This would be like saying the Republican party controls CFO hiring decisions because corporations might filter for people who are fiscally conservative. All organizations look for "culture fit" when making hiring decisions, and the culture of a university is one that is typically open and accepting of people from all walks of life. It's counterproductive to hire who think "empathy is a fundamental weakness" for example. They don't fit well with fostering a welcoming educational environment for young people, so typically we look for some degree of empathy in candidates, people who want to build community, foster individuals, and yes, who value diversity. Notably, this filter is not very good at preventing conservatives from being hired and promoted and admitted to universities, because that happens every day. > but also discriminated against some individual students due to their race. This thread is about Democrats ostensibly controlling schools. That some schools were found by a court to racially discriminate in their admitting practices is unrelated, nor does not show affiliation to the Democratic party was used as a filter for hiring or admit decisions. > a conservative white man filed a complaint against Cornell. Well, no. From the link you provided: I’m an evolutionary biologist, a liberal Anyway, diversity statements were never about being a political litmus test. Diverse hiring pools are not a white filter. These are just something butthurt people say when they get an outcome they don't like. This seems more a case of a failed scientist being rejected for a tenure track role and blaming discrimination instead of his middling research agenda.

UncleMeat 1y ago

Democrats don't control these institutions. Look at who is on the boards of these universities (both public and private).