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Don't you think it cuts both ways though? I saw a video where a guy was asking (presumably liberal) NYU students about quotes relating to immigration policy.

Don't you think it cuts both ways though? I saw a video where a guy was asking (presumably liberal) NYU students about quotes relating to immigration policy. He initially said they were from (republican person T), and they stated that they thought the comments were racist. Then the interviewer said, oh wait, sorry, they were actually from (democrat person O), and the students immediately shifted their opinions and said the comments were reasonable.

ryandrake 1y ago
I'm sure there's a little tribalism on the (D) side, too, but I don't know anyone who decorates their house, yard, and truck with Democrat merchandise and flags, wears Democrat political shirts and hats, has a shrine at home with a life-size figure of a Democrat politician, or brings up Democrat politics in social settings that are not even remotely political like a kid's birthday party. I've seen real life examples of all of these from the (R) side.
- dfee 1y ago
  Really? You’ve never seen a life sized Barack Obama cutout? You’ve not seen an “in the house we believe” yard sign? It goes both ways.
- schnable 1y ago
  You've never seen evidence of cultural/tribal signaling on the left? Never seen an "in this house" sign, somebody wearing a mask outside and alone/spread out, NPR tote bag, "Anti-Racist Baby" book on the shelf, brought up Robin Deangelo or random Trump jokes at a bbq... Fish don't know their wet.
  - ryandrake 1y ago
    I don't doubt they exist--I just haven't seen any, and I have seen many dozens of examples from the other side. I'm talking about an order of magnitude difference in degree of tribalism, not claiming total absence of tribalism from one side.
- abnercoimbre 1y ago
  I live in Seattle and they exist on the (D) side too, it just depends on the neighborhood. And don’t get me started on Portland :) Speaking to you as a progressive here I wish we had more viable parties.
- qingcharles 1y ago
  You don't want this, I promise you. I was in a Discord recently that was the liberal equivalent of MAGA and it scared the bejeezus out of me to see Dems frothing at the mouth like rabid red hatters.
ratelimitsteve 1y ago
I would love to see this video if you can find a link
intended 1y ago
Yes, second the desire for the video. Tribalism coming to the Dems is taking FAR too long. People recognize that tribalism is working for the Republicans, so it’s natural that they are going to eventually imitated the winning strategy. Seriously, I can’t believe it took this many decades for it to happen, and only after Trump made its efficacy blindingly obvious. PS: Tribalism is not good for the overall health of a polity. Its just that people imitate whatever strategies appear to work.

ryandrake 1y ago

I'm sure there's a little tribalism on the (D) side, too, but I don't know anyone who decorates their house, yard, and truck with Democrat merchandise and flags, wears Democrat political shirts and hats, has a shrine at home with a life-size figure of a Democrat politician, or brings up Democrat politics in social settings that are not even remotely political like a kid's birthday party. I've seen real life examples of all of these from the (R) side.

dfee 1y ago
Really? You’ve never seen a life sized Barack Obama cutout? You’ve not seen an “in the house we believe” yard sign? It goes both ways.
schnable 1y ago
You've never seen evidence of cultural/tribal signaling on the left? Never seen an "in this house" sign, somebody wearing a mask outside and alone/spread out, NPR tote bag, "Anti-Racist Baby" book on the shelf, brought up Robin Deangelo or random Trump jokes at a bbq... Fish don't know their wet.
- ryandrake 1y ago
  I don't doubt they exist--I just haven't seen any, and I have seen many dozens of examples from the other side. I'm talking about an order of magnitude difference in degree of tribalism, not claiming total absence of tribalism from one side.
abnercoimbre 1y ago
I live in Seattle and they exist on the (D) side too, it just depends on the neighborhood. And don’t get me started on Portland :) Speaking to you as a progressive here I wish we had more viable parties.
qingcharles 1y ago
You don't want this, I promise you. I was in a Discord recently that was the liberal equivalent of MAGA and it scared the bejeezus out of me to see Dems frothing at the mouth like rabid red hatters.

ratelimitsteve 1y ago

I would love to see this video if you can find a link

intended 1y ago

Yes, second the desire for the video. Tribalism coming to the Dems is taking FAR too long. People recognize that tribalism is working for the Republicans, so it’s natural that they are going to eventually imitated the winning strategy. Seriously, I can’t believe it took this many decades for it to happen, and only after Trump made its efficacy blindingly obvious. PS: Tribalism is not good for the overall health of a polity. Its just that people imitate whatever strategies appear to work.