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So you think only people wealthy enough for a college degree should be programmers?
by appease7727 1y ago
So you think only people wealthy enough for a college degree should be programmers?
- zwnow 1y agoHow did u get to this conclusion?
- darkwater 1y agoYou wrote > A certificate confirming he did learn the job What would that certificate be?
- pjmlp 1y agoIn Germany that would be a recomendation letter, pretty much valuable by most HR departments, and not showing up with one isn't really recommended, a shitty one is better than none at all.
- zwnow 1y agoYea apprenticeship certification is what I have (Germany). It's a lot different from other countries apprenticeships and shows ppl "Hey that dude worked this job for 3 years". College degree should also work as you usually gather some job experience during university. What i not meant were specific certificates like the Cisco ones. Even a letter of recommendation from a previous employer would count for me.
- darkwater 1y agoAren't those the dreaded recommendation letters where "good" means "bad", "very good" means "average" and "extraordinarily good" means "good" ?
- ozgung 1y agoThat's the real problem with the current process. It assumes all the candidates are just random people without any credentials. So candidates need to prove that they can code each and every time. Even a Phd degree doesn't count. Years of work experience doesn't count. And they test you with challenging competitive programming questions. Not even just normal programming. This process used to be only for Google etc, where demand is too high. It's just an elimination process. But today every company in every country blindly copies this insanity. Solving a hard dynamic programming question in 20 minutes after 2 months of studying means nothing from a real engineering perspective.
- ryandrake 1y agoExactly. There's no FizzBuzz for a doctor, because the medical degree, residency, and passing the medical board exam provide enough of a signal of basic competence.