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iPhone 5 would be more confusing considering this will be the 6th generation.

by MatthewPhillips 14y ago

arn 14y ago
It will be less confusing as "iPhone 5". 5 comes after 4. Most people don't know what generation it is.
- MatthewPhillips 14y ago
  > 5 comes after 4. Does 5 come after 4s?
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  - pooriaazimi 14y ago
    Yes, but only if you're a JavaScript nerd: > parseInt("4s") + 1 5 (it was meant to be a feeble joke. I actually agree with you)
    - danneu 14y ago
      Don't most languages parse strings like that? Ruby: "4s".to_i + 1 #=> 5
      - pooriaazimi 14y ago
        I suppose you're right. I was so eager to bash JavaScript that I forgot about it. Come to think of it, I think even non-dynamic, traditional, old-school languages like C also parse string like this (`atoi("4s")`).
  - arrrg 14y ago
    Sheesh. Sure. The S works like a modifier. 1, 1b, 1c, 2. Like that.
arrrg 14y ago
6th iPhone, arguably the 4th generation (iPhone 1, iPhone 3G and 3GS as one generation, iPhone 4 and 4S as one generation). Naming it iPhone 6 would be extremely confusing for consumers (Where did the 5 go?!), as would 4G. The only workable alternative is iPhone 5. Anything else would be a horrible idea from a marketing point of view. Yeah, it’s slightly inconsistent, but that’s just how it is. (Apple used the 4 both as an iPhone number – with the iPhone 4 – and like a generation number – with the iPhone 4S. That’s how they already introduced the inconsistency they now have to work around.) Your homework: Why did Apple count iPhones and not generations when they introduced the iPhone 4? There is a pretty simple answer to that.
- MatthewPhillips 14y ago
  > 6th iPhone, arguably the 4th generation (iPhone 1, iPhone 3G and 3GS as one generation, iPhone 4 and 4S as one generation). Are you still going to think that when the new iPhone still looks like the 4/4s model? > Naming it iPhone 6 would be extremely confusing for consumers (Where did the 5 go?!), as would 4G. The only workable alternative is iPhone 5. Anything else would be a horrible idea from a marketing point of view. Or drop the number altogether and leave the math to the nerds who care.
  - arrrg 14y ago
    If the rumours are anything to go by the next iPhone is deservedly a new generation. New metal back, larger screen, different connector, … Sure, it looks somewhat similar to the 4/4S, but you would have to be extremely superficial if you think only a completely new look deserves to be a new generation name. That’s not how Apple thinks. If they like a look they keep it. They don’t change it for change’s sake. Here is a reminder: iPhone 3G and 3GS as well as 4 and 4S looked exactly the same. I only dared to call them part of one generation because they really looked exactly the same. If the rumours are true the iPhone 5 will look somewhat similar but certainly not exactly the same as the 4/4S. And sure, no numbers would also work, but if you want numbers 5 is the only way to do it and it honestly makes a ton of sense and is not the least bit confusing. Everyone will know what you are talking about, no one will be confused. It’s unique, it’s memorable, it even makes sense.

iPhone 5 would be more confusing considering this will be the 6th generation.

arn 14y ago

It will be less confusing as "iPhone 5". 5 comes after 4. Most people don't know what generation it is.

MatthewPhillips 14y ago
> 5 comes after 4. Does 5 come after 4s?
- deleted 14y ago
  [deleted]
- pooriaazimi 14y ago
  Yes, but only if you're a JavaScript nerd: > parseInt("4s") + 1 5 (it was meant to be a feeble joke. I actually agree with you)
  - danneu 14y ago
    Don't most languages parse strings like that? Ruby: "4s".to_i + 1 #=> 5
    - pooriaazimi 14y ago
      I suppose you're right. I was so eager to bash JavaScript that I forgot about it. Come to think of it, I think even non-dynamic, traditional, old-school languages like C also parse string like this (`atoi("4s")`).
- arrrg 14y ago
  Sheesh. Sure. The S works like a modifier. 1, 1b, 1c, 2. Like that.

arrrg 14y ago

6th iPhone, arguably the 4th generation (iPhone 1, iPhone 3G and 3GS as one generation, iPhone 4 and 4S as one generation). Naming it iPhone 6 would be extremely confusing for consumers (Where did the 5 go?!), as would 4G. The only workable alternative is iPhone 5. Anything else would be a horrible idea from a marketing point of view. Yeah, it’s slightly inconsistent, but that’s just how it is. (Apple used the 4 both as an iPhone number – with the iPhone 4 – and like a generation number – with the iPhone 4S. That’s how they already introduced the inconsistency they now have to work around.) Your homework: Why did Apple count iPhones and not generations when they introduced the iPhone 4? There is a pretty simple answer to that.

MatthewPhillips 14y ago
> 6th iPhone, arguably the 4th generation (iPhone 1, iPhone 3G and 3GS as one generation, iPhone 4 and 4S as one generation). Are you still going to think that when the new iPhone still looks like the 4/4s model? > Naming it iPhone 6 would be extremely confusing for consumers (Where did the 5 go?!), as would 4G. The only workable alternative is iPhone 5. Anything else would be a horrible idea from a marketing point of view. Or drop the number altogether and leave the math to the nerds who care.
- arrrg 14y ago
  If the rumours are anything to go by the next iPhone is deservedly a new generation. New metal back, larger screen, different connector, … Sure, it looks somewhat similar to the 4/4S, but you would have to be extremely superficial if you think only a completely new look deserves to be a new generation name. That’s not how Apple thinks. If they like a look they keep it. They don’t change it for change’s sake. Here is a reminder: iPhone 3G and 3GS as well as 4 and 4S looked exactly the same. I only dared to call them part of one generation because they really looked exactly the same. If the rumours are true the iPhone 5 will look somewhat similar but certainly not exactly the same as the 4/4S. And sure, no numbers would also work, but if you want numbers 5 is the only way to do it and it honestly makes a ton of sense and is not the least bit confusing. Everyone will know what you are talking about, no one will be confused. It’s unique, it’s memorable, it even makes sense.