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What's crazy is that you can so confidently claim "tipping is a thing of the past" when it's... not? You can think tipping should go away, that's a completely v

by pc86 1y ago

What's crazy is that you can so confidently claim "tipping is a thing of the past" when it's... not? You can think tipping should go away, that's a completely valid viewpoint. But your statement is just objectively wrong. I see this a lot (not specific to HN) - some person doesn't like $THING, so they just declare that that thing is bad, or "a thing of the past," or whatever.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
Saying something is a “thing of the past” is the same as saying that something is archaic and should go away. It’s not a declaration of fact.
- taeric 1y ago
  Not distinguishing between "is" and "should be" explains a lot about why programmer types have trouble with requirements. :D
- Der_Einzige 1y ago
  We should be held to higher standards with our discourse than this.
miltonlost 1y ago
"Horse riding is a thing of the past" is both clearly true and also wrong if you are being incredibly obtuse. The average person is not riding a horse, but there are still horse riders. I see this a lot - some person doesn't like a phrase ("a thing of the past"), so they just misread it and take it clearly the wrong way.
- pc86 1y ago
  Even among the incredibly predictable "omg USA so backward tipping lol" comments here, there are a lot admitting that tipping still exists for exceptional service in certain industries. You won't find a single non-barista in the US who thinks it's reasonable for Starbucks to solicit 20% for someone pouring your coffee into a cup. But restaurants have tried the "don't tip our waiters" thing in the US and it doesn't work.
asats 1y ago
Or confidently declaring the _true_ motivations of companies/people, like they, the random internet person, for sure know why some company or a famous person are doing something, and express it as a statement of fact and an agreed upon common sense and not a speculation based on nothing. Most seen on reddit but seems to be becoming commonplace on here as well.

by pc86 1y ago

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago

Saying something is a “thing of the past” is the same as saying that something is archaic and should go away. It’s not a declaration of fact.

taeric 1y ago
Not distinguishing between "is" and "should be" explains a lot about why programmer types have trouble with requirements. :D
Der_Einzige 1y ago
We should be held to higher standards with our discourse than this.

miltonlost 1y ago

"Horse riding is a thing of the past" is both clearly true and also wrong if you are being incredibly obtuse. The average person is not riding a horse, but there are still horse riders. I see this a lot - some person doesn't like a phrase ("a thing of the past"), so they just misread it and take it clearly the wrong way.

pc86 1y ago
Even among the incredibly predictable "omg USA so backward tipping lol" comments here, there are a lot admitting that tipping still exists for exceptional service in certain industries. You won't find a single non-barista in the US who thinks it's reasonable for Starbucks to solicit 20% for someone pouring your coffee into a cup. But restaurants have tried the "don't tip our waiters" thing in the US and it doesn't work.

asats 1y ago

Or confidently declaring the _true_ motivations of companies/people, like they, the random internet person, for sure know why some company or a famous person are doing something, and express it as a statement of fact and an agreed upon common sense and not a speculation based on nothing. Most seen on reddit but seems to be becoming commonplace on here as well.