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I'm not seeing anything in the post with any legal resolution or "proof" the accusations were false. Whatever case he had was settled out-of-court. It doesn't s
by etchalon 1y ago
I'm not seeing anything in the post with any legal resolution or "proof" the accusations were false. Whatever case he had was settled out-of-court. It doesn't seem like the accusing parties were asked or agreed to take any action retracting their claims.
So, as observers, what we're left with is two people accusing someone of something and the accused saying they're innocent.
- xyzal 1y agohttps://pretty.direct/consentorder.pdf https://pretty.direct/consentorder.pdf
- swiftcoder 1y agoThat doesn't appear to involve the accusers at all - the consent order is against 4 signatories of the open letter, and merely states that they didn't have proof of the accusers claims?
- wulfstan 1y agoYes; that is correct. They are admitting they made an accusation without evidence or an investigation to support the claim. This is a civil matter and says absolutely nothing about the truth or otherwise of the claims made.
- maeln 1y agoArguably, the open letter was the most damaging (since it was the one who ostracize them from the scala community). And I guess he sued the signee who were in the same country (UK from what I understand). Suing people cross-country is a mightmare.
- verelo 1y agoThe closing remarks by the defendants seem to be what the parent comment is looking for.
- etchalon 1y agoIt's not.
- seebeen 1y ago[flagged]
- lelanthran 1y ago> I'm not seeing anything in the post with any legal resolution or "proof" the accusations were false. You don't need to prove accusations of criminal conduct false. The onus is on the accusers to prove the allegations true. > It doesn't seem like the accusing parties were asked or agreed to take any action retracting their claims. In theory there are punitive measures for false accusations, in practice no one ever bothers with them.
- netcan 1y agoThis is not a courtroom. Not even a pseudo-court of public opinion. There's a difference between listening to someone's story and assuming truthfulness... and joining a mob going after someone. He's not naming his accusers or asking the reader to go after them.
- netcan 1y ago>as observers, what we're left with is two people accusing someone of something and the accused saying they're innocent. This is the point though, isnt it. He's writing a retrospective about the impact of public condemnation and ostracization as a result of such proof-less, process-less accusations. Neither the accusation nor the denial come with proof. This is not exactly about what should we do in this circumstance. Its about what peiple did fo in these circumstances. You can doubt his innocence. But... and this is the crucial point... this post is not attempting to punish the accusers. So to me... normal rules apply. Assumption of good faith and honesty, to some extent, apply. If I read the other side's story, then I'd probably read it from the same perspective. That's ok... because we aren't hanging someone at the end of this conversation. If we are, different standards apply.
- exizt88 1y agoIf the accusers had evidence, they would have surely provided it to the defendants in the defamation case.
- etchalon 1y agoWhy would they have?
- luma 1y agoI hereby accuse you of robbing a bank. OK, now prove you didn’t.