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Sounds pretty smart to me. The best way to beat your enemy is to dissuade them from even trying

skeezyboy 1y ago
like in vietnam? or what about in al qaeda who didnt have a single tank? america arent even that good at war, theyre just not afraid to be underhanded
lnsru 1y ago
It sounds silly, but the cold war was a nice period of peace. Both sides were prepared and knew what’s coming. So peace was inevitable. When opponent gets weak war happens. Sounds even sillier, but strong and ready armies are warrant of peace.
- maeln 1y ago
  > but the cold war was a nice period of peace Tell that to the Vietnamese, the Afghan, the Cuban, the korean, ... And arguably you might include a lot of eastern european country. Just because the confrontation didn't happen in the country that were "enemy" didn't mean they didn't cause wars.
  - jack_riminton 1y ago
    But you're not arguing against the implied alternative, ww3
    - maeln 1y ago
      There is another alternative : two country not being powerful enough that they can wage a proxy war by using less powerful country. The issue is not the military power, it is the imbalance.
      - jack_riminton 1y ago
        Do you think nuclear weapons avoided ww3?
- jack_riminton 1y ago
  Exactly, people have a "non-event bias" they can't fathom thing that didn't happen because of the preceeding things that had to happen to prevent it!
  - aspenmayer 1y ago
    > Exactly, people have a "non-event bias" they can't fathom thing that didn't happen because of the preceeding things that had to happen to prevent it! No news is good news, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_a_disjunct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_a_disjunct > The formal fallacy of affirming a disjunct also known as the fallacy of the alternative disjunct or a false exclusionary disjunct occurs when a deductive argument takes the following logical form: A or B A Therefore, not B If the news is good, then there's no other newsworthy events to cover, so the good news must rule the day. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slow_news_day https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slow_news_day > 1. (journalism) A time when media organizations publish trivial stories due to the lack of more substantial topics. > 2016, W. Lance Bennett, chapter 5, in News: The Politics of Illusion, 10th edition, University of Chicago Press, →ISBN, page 136: > > Perhaps you have seen a television news program on a slow news day. In place of international crises, press conferences, congressional hearings, and proclamations by the mayor, the news may consist of a trip to the zoo to visit a new “baby,” a canned report on acupuncture in China, a follow-up story on the survivor of an air crash, or a visit to the opening of baseball spring training in Florida. If the news is bad, coverage of it will be minimal to nonexistent. Why? No news is good news, after all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent > In propositional logic, affirming the consequent (also known as converse error, fallacy of the converse, or confusion of necessity and sufficiency) is a formal fallacy (or an invalid form of argument) that is committed when, in the context of an indicative conditional statement, it is stated that because the consequent is true, therefore the antecedent is true. It takes on the following form: If P, then Q. Q. Therefore, P. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversive_affirmation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversive_affirmation > Subversive affirmation is an artistic performance that overemphasizes prevailing ideologies and thereby calls them into question. Simultaneously with affirmation, the affirmed concepts are revealed, and artists distance themselves from those concepts. Strategies of subversive affirmation include "over-identification", "over-affirmation" and "yes revolution".
afroboy 1y ago
Or just don't invade, kill, rape their womens? Trust me if you don't terrorise othe nations they won't attack you. And if you are speaking about what you guys did and doing in Palestine or any other Muslim nation trust my they aren't afraid of you, they just raise people who despise you and you will cry in future when they attack you at your homes.
- jack_riminton 1y ago
  Oh you mean like Ukraine and Russia? Might doesn’t equal right, but it certainly makes those who are wrong from even thinking of using force. Why this needs explaining to presumably educated adults is kind of terrifying in itself

like in vietnam? or what about in al qaeda who didnt have a single tank? america arent even that good at war, theyre just not afraid to be underhanded

lnsru 1y ago

It sounds silly, but the cold war was a nice period of peace. Both sides were prepared and knew what’s coming. So peace was inevitable. When opponent gets weak war happens. Sounds even sillier, but strong and ready armies are warrant of peace.

maeln 1y ago
> but the cold war was a nice period of peace Tell that to the Vietnamese, the Afghan, the Cuban, the korean, ... And arguably you might include a lot of eastern european country. Just because the confrontation didn't happen in the country that were "enemy" didn't mean they didn't cause wars.
- jack_riminton 1y ago
  But you're not arguing against the implied alternative, ww3
  - maeln 1y ago
    There is another alternative : two country not being powerful enough that they can wage a proxy war by using less powerful country. The issue is not the military power, it is the imbalance.
    - jack_riminton 1y ago
      Do you think nuclear weapons avoided ww3?
jack_riminton 1y ago
Exactly, people have a "non-event bias" they can't fathom thing that didn't happen because of the preceeding things that had to happen to prevent it!
- aspenmayer 1y ago
  > Exactly, people have a "non-event bias" they can't fathom thing that didn't happen because of the preceeding things that had to happen to prevent it! No news is good news, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_a_disjunct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_a_disjunct > The formal fallacy of affirming a disjunct also known as the fallacy of the alternative disjunct or a false exclusionary disjunct occurs when a deductive argument takes the following logical form: A or B A Therefore, not B If the news is good, then there's no other newsworthy events to cover, so the good news must rule the day. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slow_news_day https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slow_news_day > 1. (journalism) A time when media organizations publish trivial stories due to the lack of more substantial topics. > 2016, W. Lance Bennett, chapter 5, in News: The Politics of Illusion, 10th edition, University of Chicago Press, →ISBN, page 136: > > Perhaps you have seen a television news program on a slow news day. In place of international crises, press conferences, congressional hearings, and proclamations by the mayor, the news may consist of a trip to the zoo to visit a new “baby,” a canned report on acupuncture in China, a follow-up story on the survivor of an air crash, or a visit to the opening of baseball spring training in Florida. If the news is bad, coverage of it will be minimal to nonexistent. Why? No news is good news, after all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent > In propositional logic, affirming the consequent (also known as converse error, fallacy of the converse, or confusion of necessity and sufficiency) is a formal fallacy (or an invalid form of argument) that is committed when, in the context of an indicative conditional statement, it is stated that because the consequent is true, therefore the antecedent is true. It takes on the following form: If P, then Q. Q. Therefore, P. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversive_affirmation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversive_affirmation > Subversive affirmation is an artistic performance that overemphasizes prevailing ideologies and thereby calls them into question. Simultaneously with affirmation, the affirmed concepts are revealed, and artists distance themselves from those concepts. Strategies of subversive affirmation include "over-identification", "over-affirmation" and "yes revolution".

afroboy 1y ago

Or just don't invade, kill, rape their womens? Trust me if you don't terrorise othe nations they won't attack you. And if you are speaking about what you guys did and doing in Palestine or any other Muslim nation trust my they aren't afraid of you, they just raise people who despise you and you will cry in future when they attack you at your homes.

jack_riminton 1y ago
Oh you mean like Ukraine and Russia? Might doesn’t equal right, but it certainly makes those who are wrong from even thinking of using force. Why this needs explaining to presumably educated adults is kind of terrifying in itself