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> He tore it up like it was nothing. From what I understand, goods exempt under the USMCA are still exempt. EDIT: > You cant make a deal with Trump. He chang

by _zagj 1y ago

> He tore it up like it was nothing. From what I understand, goods exempt under the USMCA are still exempt. EDIT: > You cant make a deal with Trump. He changes his position weekly, depending on what he saw on Fox News or who he last talked to. If you really believe he's an unpredictable Nixonian "Madman theory" president personified, then perhaps needling him with "TACO" (in effect mocking him for offering reprieves to facilitate further negotiation, and daring him to take threatened aggressive action up to and including bombing other countries) probably isn't the smartest track to take, especially knowing how much he values strength and how image-conscious he is.

watwut 1y ago
The worst thing you can do is to allow Trump to feel strong and that you are weak. Because is always abuses it to the maximum and always tries to bully for more. He is unpredictable madman. But, he also tend to back off from challenge and daring him with aggressive action makes him back down.
- _zagj 1y ago
  > Trump to feel strong and that you are weak Trump (and the US) is strong, and Canada (and other individual trading partners) are weak. How is that not painfully obvious at this point, especially given Europe's recent capitulation? Take the best deal you can get and hope he spares you from the kind of public humiliation to which he subjected Europe. Face it, orange reddit was wrong (again) about how this would play out. Oh, I mentioned Canada's flat real GDP growth. It's also worth noting that 40% of their GDP is just real estate--a massive bubble and shell game.
  - watwut 1y ago
    Europe was un-strategic there, simple as that. Trump will take advantage of that. But, USA is getting weaker and weaker ... and will continue to fall further. That being said, practically EU promised things it likely wont deliver, because structurally cant. And the tariffs on cars are at its benefit. So like, there is nice chance Trump will look strong (which is bad), but wont get much in the practical terms (and that is fully deserved). Trump is fearful when challenged, he backs down. That is a fact. It does not even matter as much who is objectively strong or not. Trump nor current American leadership deals with facts. They are all about feelings.
    - _zagj 1y ago
      > But, USA is getting weaker and weaker Relative to China, perhaps. But surely not relative to Europe or Canada. > Trump is fearful when challenged, he backs down. That is a fact. Have you not been paying attention to the last nine years of American politics? Are you confusing him with LBJ?

by _zagj 1y ago

watwut 1y ago

The worst thing you can do is to allow Trump to feel strong and that you are weak. Because is always abuses it to the maximum and always tries to bully for more. He is unpredictable madman. But, he also tend to back off from challenge and daring him with aggressive action makes him back down.

_zagj 1y ago
> Trump to feel strong and that you are weak Trump (and the US) is strong, and Canada (and other individual trading partners) are weak. How is that not painfully obvious at this point, especially given Europe's recent capitulation? Take the best deal you can get and hope he spares you from the kind of public humiliation to which he subjected Europe. Face it, orange reddit was wrong (again) about how this would play out. Oh, I mentioned Canada's flat real GDP growth. It's also worth noting that 40% of their GDP is just real estate--a massive bubble and shell game.
- watwut 1y ago
  Europe was un-strategic there, simple as that. Trump will take advantage of that. But, USA is getting weaker and weaker ... and will continue to fall further. That being said, practically EU promised things it likely wont deliver, because structurally cant. And the tariffs on cars are at its benefit. So like, there is nice chance Trump will look strong (which is bad), but wont get much in the practical terms (and that is fully deserved). Trump is fearful when challenged, he backs down. That is a fact. It does not even matter as much who is objectively strong or not. Trump nor current American leadership deals with facts. They are all about feelings.
  - _zagj 1y ago
    > But, USA is getting weaker and weaker Relative to China, perhaps. But surely not relative to Europe or Canada. > Trump is fearful when challenged, he backs down. That is a fact. Have you not been paying attention to the last nine years of American politics? Are you confusing him with LBJ?