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The second step should be for Western states to call on Israel to disarm and relinquish control of Gaza and the West Bank. Hamas cannot be trusted to oversee t
by NomDePlum 1y ago
The second step should be for Western states to call on Israel to disarm and relinquish control of Gaza and the West Bank.
Hamas cannot be trusted to oversee the Palestinian people for the sake of Israel then Israel cannot be trusted to oversee Gaza and the West Bank for the sake of the world.
Genocide and ethnic cleansing are the latest attrocity, they need to be the last.
- Gibbon1 1y agoIf you're going to make statements like that you should at least know your history. Egypt ended up with Gaza after the 1948 Arab Israeli war. They controlled Gaza until the 6 day war when they lost it and the Sinai Peninsula. Israel offered to give Gaza back to Egypt as part of the Camp David accords but Egypt didn't want it. Israel abandoned Gaza to Hamas in 2007. But after 10/7 they've decided that was a mistake. So yeah you can demand all you want that Israeli accept being slaughtered by Islamic terrorists but isn't going to happen. Reality is calls to push Israel into a corner is going to result in stuff you claim not to want.
- zhengiszen 1y agoZionists always start the story with “October 7th” for a reason. Go back just a week earlier, and the mask starts to crack. Go back seventy-five years, and it shatters completely.
- nailer 1y agoArabs were massacaring Jewish people far before 1948, that violence was the basis of partitioning.
- NomDePlum 1y agoEuropeans massacring Jewish people was the basis of partitioning surely?
- nailer 1y agoNo. That wasn't a big problem in the area. So yes, go back seventy-five years, and the pattern of arab violence towards Jewish people is consistent.
- NomDePlum 1y agoMaybe related to the stealing of land, killing and displacement of those that lived on the land now claimed as Israel? Slaughtering peoples family and relatives is an act of violence that should expect repercussions. The deliberate casting aside of any responsibility for death, including tens to hundreds of thousands of children, plus others, is astounding and frankly unforgivable.
- nailer 1y agoBefore 1948 Jewish people bought land from Arabs at inflated prices. During 1948 it was only government land that was allocated to Israel and Arab state. > Slaughtering peoples family and relatives is an act of violence that should expect repercussions. Yes, that’s why you understand that Hamas ans Hezbollah must be destroyed. Continually starting war with their neighbours should indeed expect repercussions.
- licebmi__at__ 1y agoThere’s a irony on this call for destruction on those starting war with neighbors.
- Gibbon1 1y agoFirst thing the new Arab countries did when they gained independence after WWII was to kick out the Jews. It's an ideologically motivated fiction that Israeli's are all Zionist colonizers from Europe. 60% of them are refugees from middle eastern countries. And the majority of the rest are refugees from Europe. I find Middle Easterners and Europeans to have a lot of gall to ignore their contribution the mess.
- NomDePlum 1y agoIsrael is doing the slaughtering. The starving. The maiming. The torture. The kidnapping. The torture. It is making history and it will be remembered.
- nailer 1y agoWhy? Are you going to call on Poland and France to disarm and relinquish the parts of Germany they won after Germany started a war against them? If so, at least I understand your thinking. If not, why not?
- NomDePlum 1y agoWhat relevance does this question have? Did Poland or France commit genocide or ethnic cleansing? Israel is Germany not France or Poland in your comparison. If not, why not?
- nailer 1y ago[flagged]
- NomDePlum 1y agoHamas didn't start a war. It committed an atrocity. Israel has committed worse before and since. I've no idea how Israel recovers as a country given the continuous and popularity of the daily atrocities they perpetrate and the decades that this has been happening for. Wars involve sides attacking each other. Israel bombing anyone in Gaza doesn't qualify as a war. There wasn't a question just an excuse.
- nailer 1y ago[flagged]
- NomDePlum 1y agoWhy you want to defend the deliberate and ongoing indiscriminate killing of innocent children and adults is a question.
- nailer 1y agoI don’t, I think you’re into racist conspiracy theories. But I answered your question first, even though you asked it later, so you answer mine. > Are you going to call on Poland and France to disarm and relinquish the parts of Germany they won after Germany started a war against them?