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Great article! I share the experience mentioned in the article, LLMs facilitate a head-on interaction with any topic. It is similar to instructional YouTube vid

Great article! I share the experience mentioned in the article, LLMs facilitate a head-on interaction with any topic. It is similar to instructional YouTube videos (that imo were already transformative) but with the ability to ask detailed questions. And this is what becomes better with each iteration. When creative communities finally settle down on generative AI there will be not just a plethora of AI slop, but so much highly creative never seen before content. It might lead to a new golden age of indie low budget movie productions.

exasperaited 1y ago
There’s already a new golden age of indie low budget movies. Those guys will not use AI to generate significant parts of their content, because it defeats the point of making an indie movie at all. I never cease to be shocked at how little tech people think of what creative people do and why they do it.
- chromanoid 1y ago
  You seem to have an agenda here. I am sure there are many many visions of special effects and story arcs that could never be realized because of not being able to pull it off. This will change now. Green screens and sophisticated SFX tech will not be necessary to create fantastical images. You may call these kind of movies low brow entertainment but I am very curious to see indie movie interpretations of my favorite litrpg books.
  - exasperaited 1y ago
    An agenda? I just give a shit about the creative people (indie filmmakers, photographers, artists, actors, models) I know, and I fail to see what AI brings them that their creativity does not already; special effects are such a tiny part of filmmaking, for example. I don’t mean to say I don’t think there are any uses but I think the main misunderstanding here is that what holds indie filmmakers back isn’t access to technology, generally.
    - chromanoid 1y ago
      Well, at least I assume that currently indie movies are also somewhat defined by budget and technical limitations. With GenAI you will be able to film an action scene with your smartphone in an empty warehouse that will later look like an authentic full street in Medieval Bagdad. GenAI will remove constraints. Constraints that may have led to creativity by themselves, but those constraints also led to constraints in audience and artistic outcome. Imagination will be the limit. And I don't think we will need labels like "organic" to make collaborative efforts with actual actors more accepted than AI only productions, because good actors bring more to the table than just their face and stature.
      - exasperaited 1y ago
        > GenAI will remove constraints. I think this really hits on the difference in our understanding because constraints are what cause actual creativity and art to happen. A lack of constraints is why big-budget movies are so tedious. Lower budget movies are better because of their constraints.
        Planktonne 1y ago
        Jaws is an iconic horror film partly because the mechanical shark kept breaking, forcing them to do more with atmosphere and less with animatronics.
        exasperaited 1y ago
        Yes. A more obvious example is The Blair Witch Project, which cost less than a million dollars even after all the marketing was done (and cost essentially nothing to make). The original Halloween was a very low-budget movie considering how long it took to shoot. Vin Diesel's career was established by his own movie, Strays, which cost less than $50K. Which is zero budget, essentially, for a film that opened at Sundance. Away from films there are many, many examples of massively popular albums and songs that were made essentially for nothing off the back of simple constraints and creativity. In the long run, the only way artists will use AI effectively is by deciding on constraints that limit its use. Because as soon as you don't limit its use, anyone can do what you can do. So I tend towards thinking that AI won't really move the needle in terms of human creativity. It may reframe it. But nobody is going to be liberated creatively by it. Tech people, I suspect, tend to assume that AI brings "full creative freedom" to artists the same way a patron does when they say "you can have full creative freedom". It's not the same kind of freedom.
- ants_everywhere 1y ago
  Of course they will. The world is full of creative people and some of them will make movies with AI. Those are indie film makers.

exasperaited 1y ago

There’s already a new golden age of indie low budget movies. Those guys will not use AI to generate significant parts of their content, because it defeats the point of making an indie movie at all. I never cease to be shocked at how little tech people think of what creative people do and why they do it.

chromanoid 1y ago
You seem to have an agenda here. I am sure there are many many visions of special effects and story arcs that could never be realized because of not being able to pull it off. This will change now. Green screens and sophisticated SFX tech will not be necessary to create fantastical images. You may call these kind of movies low brow entertainment but I am very curious to see indie movie interpretations of my favorite litrpg books.
- exasperaited 1y ago
  An agenda? I just give a shit about the creative people (indie filmmakers, photographers, artists, actors, models) I know, and I fail to see what AI brings them that their creativity does not already; special effects are such a tiny part of filmmaking, for example. I don’t mean to say I don’t think there are any uses but I think the main misunderstanding here is that what holds indie filmmakers back isn’t access to technology, generally.
  - chromanoid 1y ago
    Well, at least I assume that currently indie movies are also somewhat defined by budget and technical limitations. With GenAI you will be able to film an action scene with your smartphone in an empty warehouse that will later look like an authentic full street in Medieval Bagdad. GenAI will remove constraints. Constraints that may have led to creativity by themselves, but those constraints also led to constraints in audience and artistic outcome. Imagination will be the limit. And I don't think we will need labels like "organic" to make collaborative efforts with actual actors more accepted than AI only productions, because good actors bring more to the table than just their face and stature.
    - exasperaited 1y ago
      > GenAI will remove constraints. I think this really hits on the difference in our understanding because constraints are what cause actual creativity and art to happen. A lack of constraints is why big-budget movies are so tedious. Lower budget movies are better because of their constraints.
      - Planktonne 1y ago
        Jaws is an iconic horror film partly because the mechanical shark kept breaking, forcing them to do more with atmosphere and less with animatronics.
        exasperaited 1y ago
        Yes. A more obvious example is The Blair Witch Project, which cost less than a million dollars even after all the marketing was done (and cost essentially nothing to make). The original Halloween was a very low-budget movie considering how long it took to shoot. Vin Diesel's career was established by his own movie, Strays, which cost less than $50K. Which is zero budget, essentially, for a film that opened at Sundance. Away from films there are many, many examples of massively popular albums and songs that were made essentially for nothing off the back of simple constraints and creativity. In the long run, the only way artists will use AI effectively is by deciding on constraints that limit its use. Because as soon as you don't limit its use, anyone can do what you can do. So I tend towards thinking that AI won't really move the needle in terms of human creativity. It may reframe it. But nobody is going to be liberated creatively by it. Tech people, I suspect, tend to assume that AI brings "full creative freedom" to artists the same way a patron does when they say "you can have full creative freedom". It's not the same kind of freedom.
ants_everywhere 1y ago
Of course they will. The world is full of creative people and some of them will make movies with AI. Those are indie film makers.