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Still dont understand why this is such a big issue, and I have been reading threads about it for a year now. Just turn on cloud access, accept the t&cs and the
by alt227 1y ago
Still dont understand why this is such a big issue, and I have been reading threads about it for a year now.
Just turn on cloud access, accept the t&cs and then turn it off again. If you are really scared then you can isolate that device in a vlan or DMZ temporarily.
I run many commercial and residential networks, and this is definitely a non issue for me.
- paulryanrogers 1y agoWill it still get automatic updates in case of security issues?
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- oceanplexian 1y agoI stopped buying Ubiquiti when I reset my UDM Pro and took it to another house without internet access, and it refused to "activate" without an Internet Connection or a phone app connection. Seems they are more interested in selling a lifestyle rather than actual production network equipment.
- jeremywho 1y agoWhat are you using instead?
- ThePowerOfFuet 1y agoOPNsense.
- ungreased0675 1y agoI’m also curious what other prosumer network hardware companies have good products?
- red369 1y agoI like Mikrotik routers, and their other products look good too. They are often discussed on HN if you want to search for a range of opinions. I do find that their software can be confusing, but that may also be to do with the number of options.
- jackhuman 1y agoI use TP link Omada gear and its a been very good replacement to unifi. I use it both personally & manage a side gig venue’s network. I have lots of vlans & even run dante & ndi with no issues. Replaced a Unifi system it was so buggy. DHCP reserve IPs failed, spotty issues with artists phones & the mixer board to mix their in-ears etc. I’ve setup IPSec tunnel to AWS VPC even pretty easy. Using a pi4 for last 4 years on poe running their management docker container. So solid! I’d recommend the pi over buying their hardware device mamager, its way slower.
- newsclues 1y agoIf I ditched my modest ubiquiti gear I’d probably try out https://www.alta.inc/ https://www.alta.inc/ Because https://chrisbuechler.com/ https://chrisbuechler.com/
- blowfish721 1y agoThis looks super interesting, thank you
- chaz6 1y agoI swapped my edgerouter lite (ERLite-3) to an Alta Labs Route10 recently after moving to an ISP that uses PPPoE. Unfortunately the Cavium silicon inside the ERL cannot do hardware offloading for ipv6+vlan+pppoe concurrently, so I had to find a new router. The Route10 is a nice piece of kit, but the software is still very immature, and absolutely requires a controller to manage. I really wish that I could run VyOS on it, but for now it does the job and will probably be absolutely fine for 99% of people.
- hyperionplays 1y agoNew mikrotik gear is also a great option.
- alt227 1y agoIm not excusing Ubiquiti here, I agree thats pretty annoying. However a UDM pro is a router (as well as other things). The expectation is that it is connected to WAN. Unifi switches and access points etc do not have the same online requirement.
- greycol 1y agoYou can't actually configure the wan connection fully without internet connectivity (at least last i checked). This meant for instance if your WAN required VLAN like New Zealand you couldn't actually set it up without another router. Their fix is to add 1 more option to the WAN configuration options rather than the full suite of WAN configuration options you get once it's talked home. The partial fix does make it clear that the philosophy of "you must talk to the mothership" is a guiding one that ubiquiti sticks to.
- cassianoleal 1y ago> a UDM pro is a router (as well as other things). The expectation is that it is connected to WAN. That's a bad expectation. When I moved houses, I was without home broadband for almost 2 months. I bought a Cloud Fibre Gateway as everybody recommended Unifi. I intended to set my local network up, have Home Assistant running, as well as my NAS and other self-hosted apps. Couldn't do any of that until I figured out a way to tether my phone to my OpenWRT router that the Unifi was supposed to replace, and wire them together over ethernet. Not the final straw that made be give up on it but a truly atrocious first experience.
- crimsontech 1y agoI stopped buying them when I saw users posting on reddit that they were logging in to their systems and seeing other peoples camera feeds and networks. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ubiquiti-users-report-having-access-to-others-unifi-routers-cameras/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ubiquiti-user...
- AlexandrB 1y agoHaving seen a few slippery slope situations like this over the years with IoT and other services, I'm simply not willing to make any concessions in that direction. I use a UDM Pro and turning on cloud access requires associating that hardware with a Unify cloud account. That's already undesirable if you want to safeguard privacy.
- alt227 1y agoFair enough, the Unifi brand is a consumer/prosumer brand after all. I guess if you have strict privacy requirements then you would be looking more at enterprise gear anyway.
- cowpig 1y agoWhy does strict privacy requirements imply enterprise gear?
- Henchman21 1y agoBecause the elites have decided that privacy is only applicable to businesses.
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- phs318u 1y agoAh yes. The “elites”. The invisible yet omnipresent, subtle yet ubiquitous, global cabal that no matter how fragmented and divided society gets, always speaks with one voice[0] and acts in seamless unison. [0] It’s an endless source of fascination to me that it always seems to be non-elites that have the inside scoop on what the elites are thinking and deciding. I’d love to know where they get that insight if not from their own hyper-pattern-matching imagination.
- Henchman21 1y ago