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One of the extremely stupid reasons kagi needs to develop a browser is because ios safari prevents setting kagi as the default search engine, so they have to do

by bryan0 1y ago

One of the extremely stupid reasons kagi needs to develop a browser is because ios safari prevents setting kagi as the default search engine, so they have to do some terrible hacks to get it to kind of work.

eknkc 1y ago
Yeah. That’s one reason I stopped using Kagi. Its not their fault but it is what it is.
- raffael_de 1y ago
  I've great news - you can use Firefox on iOS and set Kagi as the search engine!
  - freediver 1y ago
    Or better yet - Orion!
- autoexec 1y ago
  That seems wild to me, but admittedly I don't search from the address bar at all. Is setting your preferred search engine as your homepage and opening a new tab to search really such a huge burden?
  - eknkc 1y ago
    Yes. I do not tend to launch new tabs. I almost always use a single tab for browsing. Only when I need to keep something around then I launch a new tab to preserve the old one. That means the address bar is my main interaction with the browser.
- wiether 1y ago
  I don't remember the last time I used Safari on iOS, but once I started using Kagi, I was naturally drawn to Orion and that's been the best browser experienced I ever had on mobile. The included ad-blocker being a big factor in the great UX.
dewey 1y ago
I really hate that you can't set the default search engine easily like in other browsers, or that you can at least easily submit your company to be included in the defaults. But with the Kagi extension all my searches are always redirected to Kagi on both Safari on iOS and Safari on macOS so I don't really see this as a real blocker as a user. I understand that this is an onboarding problem, but for a technical user that's really not something preventing me from using Kagi (Like the other comment mentions).
nunez 1y ago
That and Apple anti-competitively preventing non-Safari browsers from using Safari extensions, despite all iOS browsers being essentially Safari under the hood.

by bryan0 1y ago

eknkc 1y ago

Yeah. That’s one reason I stopped using Kagi. Its not their fault but it is what it is.

raffael_de 1y ago
I've great news - you can use Firefox on iOS and set Kagi as the search engine!
- freediver 1y ago
  Or better yet - Orion!
autoexec 1y ago
That seems wild to me, but admittedly I don't search from the address bar at all. Is setting your preferred search engine as your homepage and opening a new tab to search really such a huge burden?
- eknkc 1y ago
  Yes. I do not tend to launch new tabs. I almost always use a single tab for browsing. Only when I need to keep something around then I launch a new tab to preserve the old one. That means the address bar is my main interaction with the browser.
wiether 1y ago
I don't remember the last time I used Safari on iOS, but once I started using Kagi, I was naturally drawn to Orion and that's been the best browser experienced I ever had on mobile. The included ad-blocker being a big factor in the great UX.

dewey 1y ago

I really hate that you can't set the default search engine easily like in other browsers, or that you can at least easily submit your company to be included in the defaults. But with the Kagi extension all my searches are always redirected to Kagi on both Safari on iOS and Safari on macOS so I don't really see this as a real blocker as a user. I understand that this is an onboarding problem, but for a technical user that's really not something preventing me from using Kagi (Like the other comment mentions).

nunez 1y ago

That and Apple anti-competitively preventing non-Safari browsers from using Safari extensions, despite all iOS browsers being essentially Safari under the hood.