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A possible countermeasure could be to make the life of politicians (which we will of course all name individually) who voted for such laws a hell on earth ...

afarah1 1y ago
Which is costly to do...
FirmwareBurner 1y ago
How do you get to them to force them into submission? Did Americans get the child rapists off the Epstein list yet? And the unelected EU leader Ursula VDL has had private security since she was a child. They're untouchable by the plebs, they have zero accountability.
- fakedang 1y ago
  Tbf, a Jan 6 situation is very possible in the EUC and EUP, because the security for them is just like these constituent bodies - a joke. I for one would like to see a bunch of French and Dutch farmers drive by and fling shit on them, at the very least.
LtWorf 1y ago
Other than shooting them? But they hire security… it's quite hard to hit them without hitting anyone else.
squigz 1y ago
What does that mean, precisely?
Ray20 1y ago
No, this cannot be a countermeasure. Such laws are adopted precisely so that society cannot influence politicians and their decisions. That is, if society does not have the ability to do something about it now, then they will be even less able to do something about it later.
XorNot 1y ago
Assuming "the people" are on your side on this is first and foremost your biggest folly. I see this problem over and over again - people start from "the politicians" (the other) is not listening to us (and we obviously represent everyone). It leads to extremely unconstructive messaging ideas, where you assume no one can ever change their minds and if they do they are to be forever considered "lesser" for not being "right" the first time.
hcfman 1y ago
But you don't know who voted for them. In Europe, laws are also formulated by a group called "The high level group" I believe, and the members of this group are anonymous.

afarah1 1y ago

Which is costly to do...

FirmwareBurner 1y ago

How do you get to them to force them into submission? Did Americans get the child rapists off the Epstein list yet? And the unelected EU leader Ursula VDL has had private security since she was a child. They're untouchable by the plebs, they have zero accountability.

fakedang 1y ago
Tbf, a Jan 6 situation is very possible in the EUC and EUP, because the security for them is just like these constituent bodies - a joke. I for one would like to see a bunch of French and Dutch farmers drive by and fling shit on them, at the very least.

LtWorf 1y ago

Other than shooting them? But they hire security… it's quite hard to hit them without hitting anyone else.

squigz 1y ago

What does that mean, precisely?

Ray20 1y ago

No, this cannot be a countermeasure. Such laws are adopted precisely so that society cannot influence politicians and their decisions. That is, if society does not have the ability to do something about it now, then they will be even less able to do something about it later.

XorNot 1y ago

Assuming "the people" are on your side on this is first and foremost your biggest folly. I see this problem over and over again - people start from "the politicians" (the other) is not listening to us (and we obviously represent everyone). It leads to extremely unconstructive messaging ideas, where you assume no one can ever change their minds and if they do they are to be forever considered "lesser" for not being "right" the first time.

hcfman 1y ago

But you don't know who voted for them. In Europe, laws are also formulated by a group called "The high level group" I believe, and the members of this group are anonymous.