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Wait, is this anaconda python, my favorite python installation? Oh no, it's now an AI company? Is my favorite python installation going to get enshittified?

scblock 1y ago
That happened last year, when they changed their license terms and started shaking people down for money. I wouldn't touch it. https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/08/anaconda_puts_the_squeeze_on/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/08/anaconda_puts_the_squ... https://licenseware.io/retrospective-on-anacondas-2024-licensing-changes-what-they-mean-and-smarter-alternatives/ https://licenseware.io/retrospective-on-anacondas-2024-licen... https://www.cdotrends.com/story/4173/anaconda-threatens-legal-action-over-licensing-terms https://www.cdotrends.com/story/4173/anaconda-threatens-lega... https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/intel-sued-copyright-infringement-over-ai-software-2024-08-09/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/intel-sued-copyrigh...
- lotsalaser 1y ago
  Good eye. I would not have noticed if the terms changed，even with all of those articles. Is there a good replacement?
  - mritchie712 1y ago
    uv.
  - kitchi 1y ago
    micromamba + conda-forge does the job really well. All open source and community supported, and none of the licensing drama. In my experience uv (haven't tried astral) doesn't quite fill the same niche, especially if compiled packages from other languages are necessary for your workflow (libboost for example)
- Tarq0n 1y ago
  Last year is just when they started being honest about it. Before then they left their terms intentionally ambiguous, then shook people down anyway.
- PoutCo 1y ago
  The same story again and again... In the meantime, I am volunteering for a non-profit that helps FOSS projects secure sustainable funding, and goodness, that is soooo hard! Enterprises (where money is) are afraid of FOSS, and many prefer to engage commercially with commercial open source companies, backed by VCs
igortg 1y ago
Just replace it with Miniforge: https://conda-forge.org/download/ https://conda-forge.org/download/
- kitchi 1y ago
  Or mamba/micromamba as well

scblock 1y ago

That happened last year, when they changed their license terms and started shaking people down for money. I wouldn't touch it. https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/08/anaconda_puts_the_squeeze_on/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/08/anaconda_puts_the_squ... https://licenseware.io/retrospective-on-anacondas-2024-licensing-changes-what-they-mean-and-smarter-alternatives/ https://licenseware.io/retrospective-on-anacondas-2024-licen... https://www.cdotrends.com/story/4173/anaconda-threatens-legal-action-over-licensing-terms https://www.cdotrends.com/story/4173/anaconda-threatens-lega... https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/intel-sued-copyright-infringement-over-ai-software-2024-08-09/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/intel-sued-copyrigh...

lotsalaser 1y ago
Good eye. I would not have noticed if the terms changed，even with all of those articles. Is there a good replacement?
- mritchie712 1y ago
  uv.
- kitchi 1y ago
  micromamba + conda-forge does the job really well. All open source and community supported, and none of the licensing drama. In my experience uv (haven't tried astral) doesn't quite fill the same niche, especially if compiled packages from other languages are necessary for your workflow (libboost for example)
Tarq0n 1y ago
Last year is just when they started being honest about it. Before then they left their terms intentionally ambiguous, then shook people down anyway.
PoutCo 1y ago
The same story again and again... In the meantime, I am volunteering for a non-profit that helps FOSS projects secure sustainable funding, and goodness, that is soooo hard! Enterprises (where money is) are afraid of FOSS, and many prefer to engage commercially with commercial open source companies, backed by VCs

igortg 1y ago

Just replace it with Miniforge: https://conda-forge.org/download/ https://conda-forge.org/download/

kitchi 1y ago
Or mamba/micromamba as well