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If the above mentioned surveys are to believed, then a not insignificant fraction of Israelis care less than you expect them to. Why is that? What are we misun

If the above mentioned surveys are to believed, then a not insignificant fraction of Israelis care less than you expect them to. Why is that? What are we misunderstanding about their perspective that causes the expectation to be off?

saubeidl 1y ago
And that is exactly why global opinion is souring on Israel.
judahmeek 1y ago
> Why is that? What are we misunderstanding about their perspective that causes the expectation to be off? There's a perfect explanation for this in Ten Steps of Genocide, which is taught by many Holocaust museums. Instead of recognizing Palestinian humanity, Israelites (not all, but enough to gain control of their government) have allowed themselves to discriminate, dehumanize, and persecute them. Granted, not doing so in a situation as fraught with hostility & danger as Israel's would have taken tremendous levels of moral courage, but if there's one ethnic group that we expected to be aware of the slippery slope of genocide, it's the jews.
- andsoitis 1y ago
  > Israelites The demonym for someone from Israel is Israeli. > Instead of recognizing Palestinian humanity There are ~2m Palestinians in Israel, making up about 21% percent of the population of Israel and Palestinians in Israel have had the right to vote since 1949. According to my research, there are 10 Palestinians in the Knesset. So I don't know that your claim is accurate.
  - judahmeek 1y ago
    > According to my research, there are 10 Palestinians in the Knesset. That's great, but it doesn't contradict my claim. After all, I didn't say "all Israelis". I said "enough Israelis to gain control of their government".
    - andsoitis 1y ago
      You said that Israelites dehumanize Palestinians.
      - judahmeek 1y ago
        Improve your reading comprehension. I said: "Instead of recognizing Palestinian humanity, Israelites (not all, but enough to gain control of their government) have allowed themselves to discriminate, dehumanize, and persecute them." "Israelites dehumanize Palestinians" is an over-simplification of my statement.

saubeidl 1y ago

And that is exactly why global opinion is souring on Israel.

judahmeek 1y ago

> Why is that? What are we misunderstanding about their perspective that causes the expectation to be off? There's a perfect explanation for this in Ten Steps of Genocide, which is taught by many Holocaust museums. Instead of recognizing Palestinian humanity, Israelites (not all, but enough to gain control of their government) have allowed themselves to discriminate, dehumanize, and persecute them. Granted, not doing so in a situation as fraught with hostility & danger as Israel's would have taken tremendous levels of moral courage, but if there's one ethnic group that we expected to be aware of the slippery slope of genocide, it's the jews.

andsoitis 1y ago
> Israelites The demonym for someone from Israel is Israeli. > Instead of recognizing Palestinian humanity There are ~2m Palestinians in Israel, making up about 21% percent of the population of Israel and Palestinians in Israel have had the right to vote since 1949. According to my research, there are 10 Palestinians in the Knesset. So I don't know that your claim is accurate.
- judahmeek 1y ago
  > According to my research, there are 10 Palestinians in the Knesset. That's great, but it doesn't contradict my claim. After all, I didn't say "all Israelis". I said "enough Israelis to gain control of their government".
  - andsoitis 1y ago
    You said that Israelites dehumanize Palestinians.
    - judahmeek 1y ago
      Improve your reading comprehension. I said: "Instead of recognizing Palestinian humanity, Israelites (not all, but enough to gain control of their government) have allowed themselves to discriminate, dehumanize, and persecute them." "Israelites dehumanize Palestinians" is an over-simplification of my statement.