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> Was it worth it? Yes, it is terrible, shoddy, insecure code, but he proved out a viable business with just a few hundred dollars of investment. How much is i

> Was it worth it? Yes, it is terrible, shoddy, insecure code, but he proved out a viable business with just a few hundred dollars of investment. How much is it costing him to hire someone to reimplement his idea correctly?

CharlieDigital 1y ago
Currently only equity. And it only works because has proven the revenue model and found the customers already.
- darepublic 1y ago
  Customers that he screwed over with his shoddy code.
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  - NoGravitas 1y ago
    And a developer he's screwing over by not paying them.
singpolyma3 1y ago
If he manages to do it, he'll know it's a business with legs and how much people will pay which is pretty invaluable knowledge
- CharlieDigital 1y ago
  Lots of people on HN seem to have a very broken idea of how startups and entrepreneurship works.
keerthiko 1y ago
Likely still cheaper than whatever these competitors have spent building their product and then hiring blackhat saboteurs.
- Joel_Mckay 1y ago
  I wonder if people do that sort of thing.. Generally bandits are not interested in sparing anyone. =3
- guappa 1y ago
  That's a very big alligation that would need some more proof than "who else would hack it?"
Joel_Mckay 1y ago
He can expect 5 times what he would have paid the first time with a proper specification... =3
mrmincent 1y ago
Probably a similar amount that it would have taken him to hire someone from the start, except he’s already validated the product and market.
- lelanthran 1y ago
  > Probably a similar amount that it would have taken him to hire someone from the start, except he’s already validated the product and market. He hasn't validated the market at the price point that includes the cost of a developer to build the product. He's validated a market in which it costs him close to zero to deliver. He's not validated a market which costs (say) a few months of dev time.
imiric 1y ago
Never mind what it's costing the vibe coder to fix this. The important question is: what was the cost and consequences of the exploits for users of the service?

CharlieDigital 1y ago

Currently only equity. And it only works because has proven the revenue model and found the customers already.

darepublic 1y ago
Customers that he screwed over with his shoddy code.
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- NoGravitas 1y ago
  And a developer he's screwing over by not paying them.

singpolyma3 1y ago

If he manages to do it, he'll know it's a business with legs and how much people will pay which is pretty invaluable knowledge

CharlieDigital 1y ago
Lots of people on HN seem to have a very broken idea of how startups and entrepreneurship works.

keerthiko 1y ago

Likely still cheaper than whatever these competitors have spent building their product and then hiring blackhat saboteurs.

Joel_Mckay 1y ago
I wonder if people do that sort of thing.. Generally bandits are not interested in sparing anyone. =3
guappa 1y ago
That's a very big alligation that would need some more proof than "who else would hack it?"

Joel_Mckay 1y ago

He can expect 5 times what he would have paid the first time with a proper specification... =3

mrmincent 1y ago

Probably a similar amount that it would have taken him to hire someone from the start, except he’s already validated the product and market.

lelanthran 1y ago
> Probably a similar amount that it would have taken him to hire someone from the start, except he’s already validated the product and market. He hasn't validated the market at the price point that includes the cost of a developer to build the product. He's validated a market in which it costs him close to zero to deliver. He's not validated a market which costs (say) a few months of dev time.

imiric 1y ago

Never mind what it's costing the vibe coder to fix this. The important question is: what was the cost and consequences of the exploits for users of the service?