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Thanks, thinking about this - I think there are several ways to serve this concern: one could be having an agent as a server, where "prompting" is just a comman

by mccoyb 1y ago

Thanks, thinking about this - I think there are several ways to serve this concern: one could be having an agent as a server, where "prompting" is just a command `prompt ...` sent to the agent as a server. Then you never leave your terminal. Presumably, you'd want this, but with some sort of interface _like_ these TUI systems?

breuleux 1y ago
> one could be having an agent as a server, where "prompting" is just a command `prompt ...` sent to the agent as a server Yeah, I prefer something like that (which should be strictly easier to make than these elaborate TUIs). I could also be interested in a shell that supports it natively, e.g. with a syntax such as `-- this is my prompt! it's not necessary to quote stuff`. I'd also enjoy an HTML shell that can output markdown, tables and interactive plots rather than trying to bend a matrix of characters to do these things (as long as it's snappy and reliable). I haven't looked very hard, so these things might already exist.
- spenczar5 1y ago
  Yes, I think that sounds like Warp. Personally, I find warp a bit disorienting, but it is indeed a more integrated approach.
wredcoll 1y ago
> Thanks, thinking about this - I think there are several ways to serve this concern: one could be having an agent as a server, where "prompting" is just a command `prompt ...` sent to the agent as a server. Then you never leave your terminal. Presumably, you'd want this, but with some sort of interface _like_ these TUI systems? The whole advantage to a shell, and why people get so obsessed with it, is that they provide a standard interface to every program. Tuis break that by substituting their own ui. They also provide a standard output... limitation, really, which means you can suddenly do pipes. The future should look to capture both of those benefits. Everyone will get super mad, but html is honest to god a great way to do this. Imagine a `ls` that output html to make a prettt display of your local files, but if you wanted to send the list to another program you pass some kind of css selector `ls | .main-list.file-names.name` or something. It's not exactly beautiful but you get the idea.
- yunohn 1y ago
  Apparently this is is how Powershell works vs Unix like unstructured text.

by mccoyb 1y ago

breuleux 1y ago

> one could be having an agent as a server, where "prompting" is just a command `prompt ...` sent to the agent as a server Yeah, I prefer something like that (which should be strictly easier to make than these elaborate TUIs). I could also be interested in a shell that supports it natively, e.g. with a syntax such as `-- this is my prompt! it's not necessary to quote stuff`. I'd also enjoy an HTML shell that can output markdown, tables and interactive plots rather than trying to bend a matrix of characters to do these things (as long as it's snappy and reliable). I haven't looked very hard, so these things might already exist.

spenczar5 1y ago
Yes, I think that sounds like Warp. Personally, I find warp a bit disorienting, but it is indeed a more integrated approach.

wredcoll 1y ago

> Thanks, thinking about this - I think there are several ways to serve this concern: one could be having an agent as a server, where "prompting" is just a command `prompt ...` sent to the agent as a server. Then you never leave your terminal. Presumably, you'd want this, but with some sort of interface _like_ these TUI systems? The whole advantage to a shell, and why people get so obsessed with it, is that they provide a standard interface to every program. Tuis break that by substituting their own ui. They also provide a standard output... limitation, really, which means you can suddenly do pipes. The future should look to capture both of those benefits. Everyone will get super mad, but html is honest to god a great way to do this. Imagine a `ls` that output html to make a prettt display of your local files, but if you wanted to send the list to another program you pass some kind of css selector `ls | .main-list.file-names.name` or something. It's not exactly beautiful but you get the idea.

yunohn 1y ago
Apparently this is is how Powershell works vs Unix like unstructured text.