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The Tea breach was not due to vibe-coding btw, the code was from the beginning of 2024 when vibe coding wasn't even possible.

ryandrake 1y ago
Whether it's strictly Vibe Coding™ or traditional coding by an incompetent amateur, the result is the same: defective and vulnerable slop.
- Sherveen 1y ago
  Oh great, let's just say terms whenever, as long as they are adjacent in meaning to whatever we really mean. SMART!
dingnuts 1y ago
By Karpathy's definition it still isn't possible. But I've definitely been hearing about AI generated code being just as good as my code since 2022. Don't gaslight us about timelines. The boosters have been telling us amateurs can code and we're all worthless for three and a half years now. When ChatGPT was launched, they said we'd all be on the streets by now. What I don't understand is the gleeful receipt of that news by some programmers
- bluefirebrand 1y ago
  > What I don't understand is the gleeful receipt of that news by some programmers I know there are very likely programmers that are gleeful about it, but I suspect that many of the gleeful voices we hear online are not programmers and are resentful of that fact I see this a lot with the type of people who are making AI "artwork". They often lacked the discipline to practice and learn to make art themselves, they seem to bear an underlying resentment to people who do make art. They are the sort of people who think making art is tied to some innate talent and not something that you can practice. Now they are gleeful about AI generators because it lets them create the pictures in their head without the effort of learning a skill, and they are celebrating that they no longer suffer under the tyranny of people who actually enjoy drawing and painting
- janalsncm 1y ago
  Pretty much. We are almost four years into “LLMs will make SWEs obsolete in 6 months” now. Turns out, most tools that let amateurs write bad code let pros write better code.
bluefirebrand 1y ago
Just because no one had coined the term vibe coding yet doesn't mean people weren't trying what would eventually be called vibe coding We had LLMs in 2024 that you could certainly try vibe coding with, but probably shouldn't have Just like we have LLMs today that you can certainly try vibe coding with but probably shouldn't
- cwmoore 1y ago
  Wasn’t that default public-accessible Firebase?
  - sunaookami 1y ago
    Yes which is why the other comments don't make any sense because everyone just reads headlines.
QuadmasterXLII 1y ago
Vibe coding started working in summer 2023, see e.g. https://github.com/HastingsGreer/jstreb/blob/1ccedf82ec463dc369881cb3dfce22c0e03abdd5/interface.js https://github.com/HastingsGreer/jstreb/blob/1ccedf82ec463dc... the spectacular overcommenting has been here the whole time Progress since then has mostly been people and tools catching up to the models, the limit of what the models can code has been pretty stagnant the last couple years

ryandrake 1y ago

Whether it's strictly Vibe Coding™ or traditional coding by an incompetent amateur, the result is the same: defective and vulnerable slop.

Sherveen 1y ago
Oh great, let's just say terms whenever, as long as they are adjacent in meaning to whatever we really mean. SMART!

dingnuts 1y ago

By Karpathy's definition it still isn't possible. But I've definitely been hearing about AI generated code being just as good as my code since 2022. Don't gaslight us about timelines. The boosters have been telling us amateurs can code and we're all worthless for three and a half years now. When ChatGPT was launched, they said we'd all be on the streets by now. What I don't understand is the gleeful receipt of that news by some programmers

bluefirebrand 1y ago
> What I don't understand is the gleeful receipt of that news by some programmers I know there are very likely programmers that are gleeful about it, but I suspect that many of the gleeful voices we hear online are not programmers and are resentful of that fact I see this a lot with the type of people who are making AI "artwork". They often lacked the discipline to practice and learn to make art themselves, they seem to bear an underlying resentment to people who do make art. They are the sort of people who think making art is tied to some innate talent and not something that you can practice. Now they are gleeful about AI generators because it lets them create the pictures in their head without the effort of learning a skill, and they are celebrating that they no longer suffer under the tyranny of people who actually enjoy drawing and painting
janalsncm 1y ago
Pretty much. We are almost four years into “LLMs will make SWEs obsolete in 6 months” now. Turns out, most tools that let amateurs write bad code let pros write better code.

bluefirebrand 1y ago

Just because no one had coined the term vibe coding yet doesn't mean people weren't trying what would eventually be called vibe coding We had LLMs in 2024 that you could certainly try vibe coding with, but probably shouldn't have Just like we have LLMs today that you can certainly try vibe coding with but probably shouldn't

cwmoore 1y ago
Wasn’t that default public-accessible Firebase?
- sunaookami 1y ago
  Yes which is why the other comments don't make any sense because everyone just reads headlines.

QuadmasterXLII 1y ago

Vibe coding started working in summer 2023, see e.g. https://github.com/HastingsGreer/jstreb/blob/1ccedf82ec463dc369881cb3dfce22c0e03abdd5/interface.js https://github.com/HastingsGreer/jstreb/blob/1ccedf82ec463dc... the spectacular overcommenting has been here the whole time Progress since then has mostly been people and tools catching up to the models, the limit of what the models can code has been pretty stagnant the last couple years