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Tell me, where are Jews supposed to go if not to their historic homeland? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule https://en.m.wi

Tell me, where are Jews supposed to go if not to their historic homeland? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Mu... > Today, Jews residing in Muslim countries have been reduced to a small fraction of their former sizes, with Iran and Turkey being home to the largest remaining Jewish populations, followed by Morocco, Tunisia, Lebanon, Yemen, Algeria, Syria, Pakistan and Iraq. This was due to Zionist recruitment, religious beliefs, economic reasons, widespread persecution, antisemitism, political instability and curbing of human rights in Muslim-majority countries. "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be Muslim," they say. Where then, should the Jews be allowed to live? Only in Brooklyn? > Until the 1960s, approximately one million Jews lived in Iran and other Arab countries having arrived in the region more than 2,000 years before. Nowadays, it is estimated that only around 15,000 remain, as the majority of the Jewish population in Muslim lands were forced to flee their homes https://sephardicu.com/history/jewish-population-in-10-islamic-countries/#:~:text=Nowadays%2C%20it,the%20years https://sephardicu.com/history/jewish-population-in-10-islam... Hamas could surrender at any time. They're to blame for everything.

bigyabai 1y ago
Judging by the British Raj, choosing to inhabit a former British colony probably wasn't a super informed decision. If you attended history class, you know what happened the moment Britian left. Violence begets violence, if Israeli settlers want to fight to displace other people then they will die in that process. Thankfully for Jews, there are other states they can choose to inhabit that are both secular and respect international law. These are, statistically, safer places for Jewish individuals to live than a state that instructs their army on how to commit fratricide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive
throwforfeds 1y ago
> The introduction of nationalist ideologies (including Zionism and Arab nationalism), the impact of colonial policies, and the establishment of modern nation-states altered the status and dynamics of Jewish communities in Muslim-majority countries. From your source. It's important to note that in a place like Algeria the French colonists granted Jewish populations citizenship to France, yet denied it to the Arab and Berber populations. [1] This fractured relations between the Sephardic population and the rest of the local population, which is exactly what the French wanted. I'm not going to say relations were perfect before, or deny that Jewish populations weren't second class citizens, but there was a long history of being neighbors and having cities like Constantine be a place of refuge after the Spanish expulsion of Jews from Andalusia. I mean, in places like Mogador in Morocco, Jewish populations were explicitly invited by the king to settle and set up trading businesses [2]. The founding of Israel completely changed this and fractured relations that went back hundreds, if not thousands, of years. [3] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9mieux_Decree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9mieux_Decree [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essaouira#Jewish_presence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essaouira#Jewish_presence [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghrebi_Jews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghrebi_Jews

bigyabai 1y ago

Judging by the British Raj, choosing to inhabit a former British colony probably wasn't a super informed decision. If you attended history class, you know what happened the moment Britian left. Violence begets violence, if Israeli settlers want to fight to displace other people then they will die in that process. Thankfully for Jews, there are other states they can choose to inhabit that are both secular and respect international law. These are, statistically, safer places for Jewish individuals to live than a state that instructs their army on how to commit fratricide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive

throwforfeds 1y ago

> The introduction of nationalist ideologies (including Zionism and Arab nationalism), the impact of colonial policies, and the establishment of modern nation-states altered the status and dynamics of Jewish communities in Muslim-majority countries. From your source. It's important to note that in a place like Algeria the French colonists granted Jewish populations citizenship to France, yet denied it to the Arab and Berber populations. [1] This fractured relations between the Sephardic population and the rest of the local population, which is exactly what the French wanted. I'm not going to say relations were perfect before, or deny that Jewish populations weren't second class citizens, but there was a long history of being neighbors and having cities like Constantine be a place of refuge after the Spanish expulsion of Jews from Andalusia. I mean, in places like Mogador in Morocco, Jewish populations were explicitly invited by the king to settle and set up trading businesses [2]. The founding of Israel completely changed this and fractured relations that went back hundreds, if not thousands, of years. [3] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9mieux_Decree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9mieux_Decree [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essaouira#Jewish_presence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essaouira#Jewish_presence [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghrebi_Jews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghrebi_Jews