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Collective punishment and mass starvation of children violates my morality and is not an action I want my government to take in any circumstance. I also specul

Collective punishment and mass starvation of children violates my morality and is not an action I want my government to take in any circumstance. I also speculate that it will be ineffective at preventing future violence. Feelings like yours work in both directions - the residents of Gaza, by your point of view, are equally justified to kill more Israelis to avenge the violence being done to them today.

wonderwonder 1y ago
So to be clear because I want you to say it: There is a line at which you would tell the government to stop and let your children die and allow the rape and murder of your wife to go unpunished. Or is it safe to assume you are unmarried and have no children? If you do have kids then every time you look them in the eye you should acknowledge that you would let them die due to your morality. Which if true, that's fine. We are just looking at life and family from 2 completely alien perspectives. There is literally nothing I would not do to get my kids back. "the residents of Gaza, by your point of view, are equally justified to kill more Israelis to avenge the violence being done to them today" Sure, and then the Israeli government should punish them to an even greater extent. Or the people of Gaza should rage against the group that unleashed this punishment on them, Hamas. the same group they voted on to lead them.
- carefulfungi 1y ago
  That's correct. I would not kill a million unarmed people and hundreds of thousands of children, or ask someone else to do it for me, to compel the return of my family.
  - wonderwonder 1y ago
    Do you have children?
    - carefulfungi 1y ago
      Yes. And I don't teach them to cause unlimited suffering for their own benefit.
      - wonderwonder 1y ago
        Of course you don't teach your kids that, never said you should. I would hope that you don't tell them that if it comes down to them or someone else then you would save someone else. I have always considered my primary job in life is to ensure my children are safe, no matter what. We differ there. Your viewpoint is utterly alien to me. I wish you well and will call this conversation. All the best.

wonderwonder 1y ago

So to be clear because I want you to say it: There is a line at which you would tell the government to stop and let your children die and allow the rape and murder of your wife to go unpunished. Or is it safe to assume you are unmarried and have no children? If you do have kids then every time you look them in the eye you should acknowledge that you would let them die due to your morality. Which if true, that's fine. We are just looking at life and family from 2 completely alien perspectives. There is literally nothing I would not do to get my kids back. "the residents of Gaza, by your point of view, are equally justified to kill more Israelis to avenge the violence being done to them today" Sure, and then the Israeli government should punish them to an even greater extent. Or the people of Gaza should rage against the group that unleashed this punishment on them, Hamas. the same group they voted on to lead them.

carefulfungi 1y ago
That's correct. I would not kill a million unarmed people and hundreds of thousands of children, or ask someone else to do it for me, to compel the return of my family.
- wonderwonder 1y ago
  Do you have children?
  - carefulfungi 1y ago
    Yes. And I don't teach them to cause unlimited suffering for their own benefit.
    - wonderwonder 1y ago
      Of course you don't teach your kids that, never said you should. I would hope that you don't tell them that if it comes down to them or someone else then you would save someone else. I have always considered my primary job in life is to ensure my children are safe, no matter what. We differ there. Your viewpoint is utterly alien to me. I wish you well and will call this conversation. All the best.