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The game theory, as per recent events, is as follows: 1. Hamas doesn't accept a two-state solution. 2. Israel is therefore forced into implementing a one-stat
by OutOfHere 1y ago
The game theory, as per recent events, is as follows:
1. Hamas doesn't accept a two-state solution.
2. Israel is therefore forced into implementing a one-state solution.
- ImPostingOnHN 1y agoIt looks like israel is the one rejecting 2-state solutions* * - 2-state means 2 co-equal states, with equal people, and equal rights (including the equal right to be safe from the other)
- hn_go_brrrrr 1y agoNeither Hamas nor Israel's current right-wing government wants the kind of solution you're proposing.
- HDThoreaun 1y agoHamas has quite literally never been open to anything like this. Israel no longer is, but they definitely were before the second intafada.
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- peterfirefly 1y ago> but they definitely were before the second intafada. No. But some of the important people in Israel were smart enough to pretend they were.
- HDThoreaun 1y agoThe palestinains shouldve called their bluff instead of refusing every deal offered then.
- chimineycricket 1y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter Hamas is willing to accept the 1967 borders as Palestine.
- OutOfHere 1y agoIt is essential to pay attention to the timeline of events, to not distort the sequence and progression of events. First Hamas rejected the two-state solution. Israel has later, in effect, accepted their rejection.
- Mordisquitos 1y agoYour argument is subtly biased in that you equivocating two different levels of entities: one of them is a political/militant/terrorist organisation and another is a state. If we're dealing with the first level we should compare Hamas and Likud (+coalition); if we're dealing with the second level, we should compare Palestine and Israel. Elevating Hamas to represent the entirety of Palestine in the conflict is twisting the logic.
- OutOfHere 1y agoThose with the guns (Hamas) are those that matter. The powerless puppet Palestinian government is irrelevant. The Arab countries just called for Hamas to lay down their weapons, thereby proving my point.
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- OutOfHere 1y agoDo you know the sheer number of countries that the religion behind Palestine (starting with I) invaded and occupied? They still have the fastest growing population, and based on their birth rate, they can in a few thousand years replace everyone else everywhere.
- slt2021 1y agoyou cannot defend the genocide (murder of people) by the increased birth rates. In fact, high birth rates is caused by high mortality rates. The more jews engage in genocide and murder of Palestinians, the higher will be fertility, this is the law of demographics. as for your Islam argument, the Islamic conquest was how many millennia ago? Is your argument that today we shall live by the laws of 7th century ? This only highlights the level of Israeli thinking: you guys still think like barbarians from 7th century and have no concept of human right and international law
- OutOfHere 1y ago> high birth rates is caused by high mortality rates. This has been true in some places, e.g. Africa, but it is by no means a generalization. It is in fact grossly misleading because various countries have seen their Muslim populations explode while the mortality rate going down. High birth rate is more associated with religiousness than with mortality. > the Islamic conquest was how many millennia ago? The Islamic conquest is very much ongoing, and will continue for the next few thousand years. It now works not by wars but by demographic displacement, although this can change for the worse once more Islamic countries obtain nukes. The conquest will carry on until all non-Islamic populations have been displaced. Just ask them honestly why they have so many babies even while in modern Western cities.