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Cold blooded murder on video and it is still not enough for our countries to take action.

by BenGosub 1y ago

walls 1y ago
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- kzrdude 1y ago
  nihilistic attitudes like that are also keeping doors open for the continued march towards autocracy in the USA unfortunately
- dang 1y ago
  I've said no such thing, as your "basically" already indicates.
piva00 1y ago
Not only our countries but the state of Israel itself, it's ongoing for decades, it has only further eroded Israel's security (who could've guessed that allowing your citizens to displace, and/or kill, people who already lived there would have consequences?). The documentary "Checkpoint" is more than 20 years old by now, the treatment of West Bank's Palestinians has been fucked up for even longer than that, and Netanyahu's government only made it worse. I wish to see in my lifetime Israel having to reckon with the fact they've become the monster, justifying their actions after the immense suffering their ancestors went through during the Holocaust is impossible... Edit: according to Yuval Abraham[0], the killer instructed soldiers to arrest the other 4 family members of Awdah Hathaleen which are still in jail, while the murderer was released under house arrest, fucking insane. [0] https://x.com/yuval_abraham/status/1950190191584419923 https://x.com/yuval_abraham/status/1950190191584419923
- piva00 1y ago
  Since I'm past the window to edit my comment, here's another example of the abhorrent behaviour from Israeli forces[0] which has been all too common for decades, not very different from Amon Göth, and just check the article's date (2018). [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-show-cheers-israeli-sniper-shoots-palestinian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-...
xdennis 1y ago
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- adhamsalama 1y ago
  It's literally an illegal settler. No excuses for that.
- dfedbeef 1y ago
  'Why are these people so upset I'm just bulldozing their home'
  - lifestyleguru 1y ago
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    - an0malous 1y ago
      It’s sickening that this is the whole reason for the genocide. They’re auctioning land in the West Bank in the US, Trump is talking about building resorts in Gaza, Israeli politicians are talking about building the “Greater Israel.” It was never about Hamas or the hostages, it’s just a land grab.
    - sillystuff 1y ago
      Recently, the CBC was reporting on a realestate fair in a Canadian synagogue, where the only land on offer was illegally occupied land in the west bank. Apparently, this is a thing at synagogues across the west. Zionists, have made it clear for anyone paying attention, they intend to displace or exterminate every single Palestinian, to the person, to make way for zionist jews.
    - gishglish 1y ago
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      - lifestyleguru 1y ago
        Think about it. You are allowed to take over neighbour's real estate, raze it to the ground, and kill them as you wish without consequences. Would you resist?
bell-cot 1y ago
Out in the real world - how much "our countries take action" stuff actually happens when regular & systematic violence is occurring somewhere? When it does happen, how often does well-intended foreign intervention actually "fix" things - vs. turning into a yet another "park our troops there 'till we finally run out of patience" occupation? My read is that the many powerful factions which favor (overtly or not) the ongoing violent mess in/around Israel have (generally) very good understandings of the situation and its dynamics. And the benefits & costs - for them - of encouraging it to continue indefinitely. Vs. the opposing side is dominated by sincere but all-too-simple "make horrible things stop happening!!!" emotions. :(
- immibis 1y ago
  I don't think anyone is realistically expecting western countries to intervene to stop the genocide. But we are expecting our countries to stop helping the genocide. That's the difference.
AlexandrB 1y ago
What action did our countries take after the cold blooded murders on October 7th, 2023?
- rhcom2 1y ago
  My country (USA) gave them $10B+ in military aid

Cold blooded murder on video and it is still not enough for our countries to take action.

walls 1y ago

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kzrdude 1y ago
nihilistic attitudes like that are also keeping doors open for the continued march towards autocracy in the USA unfortunately
dang 1y ago
I've said no such thing, as your "basically" already indicates.

piva00 1y ago

Not only our countries but the state of Israel itself, it's ongoing for decades, it has only further eroded Israel's security (who could've guessed that allowing your citizens to displace, and/or kill, people who already lived there would have consequences?). The documentary "Checkpoint" is more than 20 years old by now, the treatment of West Bank's Palestinians has been fucked up for even longer than that, and Netanyahu's government only made it worse. I wish to see in my lifetime Israel having to reckon with the fact they've become the monster, justifying their actions after the immense suffering their ancestors went through during the Holocaust is impossible... Edit: according to Yuval Abraham[0], the killer instructed soldiers to arrest the other 4 family members of Awdah Hathaleen which are still in jail, while the murderer was released under house arrest, fucking insane. [0] https://x.com/yuval_abraham/status/1950190191584419923 https://x.com/yuval_abraham/status/1950190191584419923

piva00 1y ago
Since I'm past the window to edit my comment, here's another example of the abhorrent behaviour from Israeli forces[0] which has been all too common for decades, not very different from Amon Göth, and just check the article's date (2018). [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-show-cheers-israeli-sniper-shoots-palestinian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-...

xdennis 1y ago

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adhamsalama 1y ago
It's literally an illegal settler. No excuses for that.
dfedbeef 1y ago
'Why are these people so upset I'm just bulldozing their home'
- lifestyleguru 1y ago
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  - an0malous 1y ago
    It’s sickening that this is the whole reason for the genocide. They’re auctioning land in the West Bank in the US, Trump is talking about building resorts in Gaza, Israeli politicians are talking about building the “Greater Israel.” It was never about Hamas or the hostages, it’s just a land grab.
  - sillystuff 1y ago
    Recently, the CBC was reporting on a realestate fair in a Canadian synagogue, where the only land on offer was illegally occupied land in the west bank. Apparently, this is a thing at synagogues across the west. Zionists, have made it clear for anyone paying attention, they intend to displace or exterminate every single Palestinian, to the person, to make way for zionist jews.
  - gishglish 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - lifestyleguru 1y ago
      Think about it. You are allowed to take over neighbour's real estate, raze it to the ground, and kill them as you wish without consequences. Would you resist?

bell-cot 1y ago

Out in the real world - how much "our countries take action" stuff actually happens when regular & systematic violence is occurring somewhere? When it does happen, how often does well-intended foreign intervention actually "fix" things - vs. turning into a yet another "park our troops there 'till we finally run out of patience" occupation? My read is that the many powerful factions which favor (overtly or not) the ongoing violent mess in/around Israel have (generally) very good understandings of the situation and its dynamics. And the benefits & costs - for them - of encouraging it to continue indefinitely. Vs. the opposing side is dominated by sincere but all-too-simple "make horrible things stop happening!!!" emotions. :(

immibis 1y ago
I don't think anyone is realistically expecting western countries to intervene to stop the genocide. But we are expecting our countries to stop helping the genocide. That's the difference.

AlexandrB 1y ago

What action did our countries take after the cold blooded murders on October 7th, 2023?

rhcom2 1y ago
My country (USA) gave them $10B+ in military aid