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The discussion here is amusing to read, but this is obviously a submission to instant-reject. No need for waste your time reading the PR, and I’m sure the maint

The discussion here is amusing to read, but this is obviously a submission to instant-reject. No need for waste your time reading the PR, and I’m sure the maintainer won’t. This is like spam making the front page of HN. Why?

brookst 1y ago
It’s got something for everyone. 1. Outrage is fun! 2. “This confirms my biases!” 3. It’s kind of a funny extreme of bad behavior we’ve all had to deal with
morkalork 1y ago
It's novel spam? At least today it is, tomorrow probably not. 128k is impressive!
bbor 1y ago
It's interesting and funny and indicative of a broader problem in open-source development, reaching not only technical projects but also stuff like Wikipedia. 90% of the reason I'm here is for the discussion, not literally for the links to news -- there's much better ways to curate news directly to my phone these days. Plus, again: it's just downright funny. It starts funny b/c he's clearly well-meaning ("I do not think this can be directly merged into the project"), and then you get to the part where there's 300+ commits (20 of which are just "Updated project files") and you just can't help but crack a little smile!
bwfan123 1y ago
Because we need to celebrate BullShit at scale ! and celebrate the fearless data-scientists turned software engineers who aided by AI are setting PR records while we software engineers watch with envy and sarcasm.
cloudbonsai 1y ago
I actually checked the PR because I was curious if a cutting-edge AI can generate 128k lines of quality code. I mean, if that's true it's great! Here is what I noticed while reading the PR: - The PR has surpurisingly little meat. It contains 128k lines, but most of them are AI-generated documentation (86K lines, 68%). It also contains 9K lines of AI-generated tests (7%). So the actual code is just 32K lines (25%). - For what it's worth mentioning, the documentation is bad. It mostly feels like a copy-and-paste from someone's LLM session. You can check it out yourself: https://github.com/OpenCut-app/OpenCut/blob/b883256/docs/issues/timeline-cursor-alignment-analysis.md https://github.com/OpenCut-app/OpenCut/blob/b883256/docs/iss... - I have no deep understanding of OpenCut project, but the code seems buggy? I observe that it casually removes a few logics from the original code without any reason. So it's plausible that the PR is not only useless but harmful to merge. So my takeaway is that a latest commercial LLM is not getting there, at least yet.
- phendrenad2 1y ago
  Great, so now the old "add 30k lines of auto-generated selenium tests to a project and put it on your resume" has a new AI step that amplifies it to 130k lines.
- potato3732842 1y ago
  >- The PR has surprisingly little meat. It contains 128k lines, but most of them are AI-generated documentation (86K lines, 68%). It also contains 9K lines of AI-generated tests (7%). So the actual code is just 32K lines (25%). When you hear about a huge PR or change this should be your default assumption regardless of whether AI or otherwise. Most huge PRs are only a few thousand lines of "serious logic" code. That code then spawns a bunch of duplication of logic, stuff like adding a dozen few thousand line handling routines to convert a dozen inputs into some single thing. Those then spawn several times their own line count in docs and tests and whatnot.

brookst 1y ago

It’s got something for everyone. 1. Outrage is fun! 2. “This confirms my biases!” 3. It’s kind of a funny extreme of bad behavior we’ve all had to deal with

morkalork 1y ago

It's novel spam? At least today it is, tomorrow probably not. 128k is impressive!

bbor 1y ago

It's interesting and funny and indicative of a broader problem in open-source development, reaching not only technical projects but also stuff like Wikipedia. 90% of the reason I'm here is for the discussion, not literally for the links to news -- there's much better ways to curate news directly to my phone these days. Plus, again: it's just downright funny. It starts funny b/c he's clearly well-meaning ("I do not think this can be directly merged into the project"), and then you get to the part where there's 300+ commits (20 of which are just "Updated project files") and you just can't help but crack a little smile!

bwfan123 1y ago

Because we need to celebrate BullShit at scale ! and celebrate the fearless data-scientists turned software engineers who aided by AI are setting PR records while we software engineers watch with envy and sarcasm.

cloudbonsai 1y ago

I actually checked the PR because I was curious if a cutting-edge AI can generate 128k lines of quality code. I mean, if that's true it's great! Here is what I noticed while reading the PR: - The PR has surpurisingly little meat. It contains 128k lines, but most of them are AI-generated documentation (86K lines, 68%). It also contains 9K lines of AI-generated tests (7%). So the actual code is just 32K lines (25%). - For what it's worth mentioning, the documentation is bad. It mostly feels like a copy-and-paste from someone's LLM session. You can check it out yourself: https://github.com/OpenCut-app/OpenCut/blob/b883256/docs/issues/timeline-cursor-alignment-analysis.md https://github.com/OpenCut-app/OpenCut/blob/b883256/docs/iss... - I have no deep understanding of OpenCut project, but the code seems buggy? I observe that it casually removes a few logics from the original code without any reason. So it's plausible that the PR is not only useless but harmful to merge. So my takeaway is that a latest commercial LLM is not getting there, at least yet.

phendrenad2 1y ago
Great, so now the old "add 30k lines of auto-generated selenium tests to a project and put it on your resume" has a new AI step that amplifies it to 130k lines.
potato3732842 1y ago
>- The PR has surprisingly little meat. It contains 128k lines, but most of them are AI-generated documentation (86K lines, 68%). It also contains 9K lines of AI-generated tests (7%). So the actual code is just 32K lines (25%). When you hear about a huge PR or change this should be your default assumption regardless of whether AI or otherwise. Most huge PRs are only a few thousand lines of "serious logic" code. That code then spawns a bunch of duplication of logic, stuff like adding a dozen few thousand line handling routines to convert a dozen inputs into some single thing. Those then spawn several times their own line count in docs and tests and whatnot.