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With publishing prices ranging from $700 to $1800. Some real art of the deal stuff here.
by bubblethink 1y ago
With publishing prices ranging from $700 to $1800. Some real art of the deal stuff here.
- rs186 1y agoIt has always worked like that.
- bubblethink 1y agoThis is just shifting the cost from the readers to the writers. It doesn't make it any better as the prices are completely out of touch with reality. Note that this is not the cost for registering at a conference; that is separate. This is just the publishing fee for each paper.
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- atrus 1y agoIt's not really shifting the cost from readers to writers, since these fee existed beforehand though. They just went from double-dipping to single dipping.
- bubblethink 1y agoThe open access pricing is different and higher than the old closed access pricing. That is the switch in all open access publishing. In any case, both the old prices and new ones are absurdly high.
- aoki 1y agoThe pricing is not about the cost of storing and serving the articles. It is partly direct revenue replacement and partly “stick” to get institutions to subscribe to APC allowance buckets.
- clueless 1y agoin an open access world, who should be paying the people who are reviewing the papers (which cost time/money)?
- bubblethink 1y agoReviewers aren't paid. This is just money for ACM, the non profit.
- clueless 1y agoah in that case, this is long over due.
- aoki 1y agoACM went hybrid access (optional APC for Gold open access) in 2013. Before that, there were no APCs. As of 2026 authors will pay APC unless their institution pays (by subscribing, or directly). If you are in a developed country and not affiliated with a subscriber institution, there is no longer a free-to-publish option.
- nautilius 1y agoWhat’s more, it creates an incentive to accept more papers for publication, with obvious implications for quality.
- alwahi 1y agowhat I'm seeing is that profs in the gulf countries are collaborating with profs and groups in third world countries where they are throwing money at the profs in the third world, who are doing all the work but don't have the funds to get published in these "prestigious journals"(its called the third world for a reason), so all these people get authorship for free.