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> We also offer a competitive salary in the $50k-$100k range I don't think that 50k is competitive for any developer that they would be willing to hire, regard

> We also offer a competitive salary in the $50k-$100k range I don't think that 50k is competitive for any developer that they would be willing to hire, regardless of where they're located or how much they promise the equity will be worth in a few years. Edit: Didn't even realize that it said you had to relocate to SF. For SF, one of the most expensive cities in the US and the one with by far the most competition for developer talent, 50k is not competitive under any circumstances (It's barely livable.), and even 100k isn't very competitive for anyone with even a little good experience.

mbenjaminsmith 14y ago
Especially given the 'US based have to live in / move to SF' part. Wasn't this company kicked out of the US because they couldn't sort out visas for the team? If so, why would they require someone to be in SF or any other market if they're not there as an organization? It almost sounds like they're trying to setup a "presence" in SF via a new hire. Given that and the low salary this sounds more like a co-founder role, not an employee. So on the low end of the scale you're looking at 50k (a salary I can't even imagine for the Bay Area) for full time work plus what, handing out business cards at events? Pure speculation of course, but since this company was once in TC for not being able to stay in SF asking for SF-based employees only is weird at best. Also, given that this is a feature company built on Twitter and Facebook I'd say any equity deal is extra risky. It sounds like they haven't run afoul of Twitter's guidelines yet. That doesn't mean Twitter won't change their mind next week.
- joelg87 14y ago
  > since this company was once in TC for not being able to stay in SF asking for SF-based employees only is weird at best. Totally understand the confusion we've created here with our slightly unusual path so far :-) We've been travelling for a year whilst we applied for visas and we're heading back to SF with visas to set up a base there and have an office for the first time. Nothing too odd I hope, we simply took the opportunity to go travelling whilst building Buffer for the last year after we found we couldn't stay in the U.S. :-) We're all going to be back in SF, so we're looking for people a little in advance. Remote work first, but joining us in the SF office once we get that set up in a couple of months. We'd certainly go to the high end of this salary range (and it's intentionally a broad range). Hope that clarifies a few things, would love to answer anything else!
  - mbenjaminsmith 14y ago
    That certainly makes (more) sense. Good luck with the move and the hires.

mbenjaminsmith 14y ago

Especially given the 'US based have to live in / move to SF' part. Wasn't this company kicked out of the US because they couldn't sort out visas for the team? If so, why would they require someone to be in SF or any other market if they're not there as an organization? It almost sounds like they're trying to setup a "presence" in SF via a new hire. Given that and the low salary this sounds more like a co-founder role, not an employee. So on the low end of the scale you're looking at 50k (a salary I can't even imagine for the Bay Area) for full time work plus what, handing out business cards at events? Pure speculation of course, but since this company was once in TC for not being able to stay in SF asking for SF-based employees only is weird at best. Also, given that this is a feature company built on Twitter and Facebook I'd say any equity deal is extra risky. It sounds like they haven't run afoul of Twitter's guidelines yet. That doesn't mean Twitter won't change their mind next week.

joelg87 14y ago
> since this company was once in TC for not being able to stay in SF asking for SF-based employees only is weird at best. Totally understand the confusion we've created here with our slightly unusual path so far :-) We've been travelling for a year whilst we applied for visas and we're heading back to SF with visas to set up a base there and have an office for the first time. Nothing too odd I hope, we simply took the opportunity to go travelling whilst building Buffer for the last year after we found we couldn't stay in the U.S. :-) We're all going to be back in SF, so we're looking for people a little in advance. Remote work first, but joining us in the SF office once we get that set up in a couple of months. We'd certainly go to the high end of this salary range (and it's intentionally a broad range). Hope that clarifies a few things, would love to answer anything else!
- mbenjaminsmith 14y ago
  That certainly makes (more) sense. Good luck with the move and the hires.