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I'm really waiting for somebody to figure out the correct interface for all this. For example, study mode will present you with a wall of text containing inform

I'm really waiting for somebody to figure out the correct interface for all this. For example, study mode will present you with a wall of text containing information, examples, and questions. There's no great way to associate your answers with specific questions. The chat interface just isn't good for this sort of interaction. ChatGPT really needs to build its own canvas/artifact interface wherein questions/responses are tied together. It's clear, at this point, that we're doing way too much with a UI that isn't designed for more than a simple conversation.

precompute 1y ago
There is no "correct interface". People who want to learn put in the effort, doesn't matter if they have scrolls, books, ebooks or AI.
perlgeek 1y ago
There are so many options that could be done, like: * for each statement, give you the option to rate how well you understood it. Offer clarification on things you didn't understand * present knowledge as a tree that you can expand to get deeper * show interactive graphs (very useful for mathy things when can you easily adjust some of the parameters) * add quizzes to check your understanding ... though I could well imagine this being out of scope for ChatGPT, and thus an opportunity for other apps / startups.
- ColeShepherd 1y ago
  > present knowledge as a tree that you can expand to get deeper I'm very interested in this. I've considered building this, but if this already exists, someone let me know please!
tootyskooty 1y ago
I gave it a shot with periplus.app :). Not perfect by any means, but it's a different UX than chat so you might find it interesting.
- danenania 1y ago
  This looks super cool—I've imagined something similar, especially the skill tree/knowledge map UI. Looking forward to trying it out. Have you considered using the LLM to give tests/quizzes (perhaps just conversationally) in order to measure progress and uncover weak spots?
  - tootyskooty 1y ago
    There are both in-document quizzes and larger exams (at a course level). I've also been playing around with adapting content based on their results (e.g. proactively nudging complexity up/down) but haven't gotten it to a good place yet.
    - danenania 1y ago
      Nice, I've been playing with it a bit and it seems really well done and polished so far. I'm curious how long you spent building it? Only feedback I have so far is that it would be nice to control the playback speed of the 'read aloud' mode. I'd like it to be a little bit faster.
      - tootyskooty 1y ago
        Glad you like it!! I've been working on it on-and-off for about a year now. Roughly 2-3 months if I worked on it full-time I'm guessing. re: playback speed -> noted, will add some controls tomorrow
      - tootyskooty 1y ago
        Just added a proper playback control component on desktop, allows changing rate, rewinding & persists across pages :)!
        danenania 1y ago
        Awesome! Will try it soon. What's your GTM plan? You built an amazing app—I hope you are focusing as much on marketing as adding features! I think a lot of people will like this if you get it in front of them.
bo1024 1y ago
Agree, one thing that brought this home was the example where the student asks to learn all of game theory. There seems to be an assumption on both sides that this will be accomplished in a single chat session by a linear pass, necessarily at a pretty superficial level.
kamranahmedse 1y ago
We are trying to solve this at https://roadmap.sh/ai https://roadmap.sh/ai It's still a work in progress but we are trying to make it better everyday
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energy123 1y ago
Yeah. And how to tie in the teacher into all this. Need the teacher to upload the context, like the textbook, so the LLM can refer to tangible class material.

precompute 1y ago

There is no "correct interface". People who want to learn put in the effort, doesn't matter if they have scrolls, books, ebooks or AI.

perlgeek 1y ago

There are so many options that could be done, like: * for each statement, give you the option to rate how well you understood it. Offer clarification on things you didn't understand * present knowledge as a tree that you can expand to get deeper * show interactive graphs (very useful for mathy things when can you easily adjust some of the parameters) * add quizzes to check your understanding ... though I could well imagine this being out of scope for ChatGPT, and thus an opportunity for other apps / startups.

ColeShepherd 1y ago
> present knowledge as a tree that you can expand to get deeper I'm very interested in this. I've considered building this, but if this already exists, someone let me know please!

tootyskooty 1y ago

I gave it a shot with periplus.app :). Not perfect by any means, but it's a different UX than chat so you might find it interesting.

danenania 1y ago
This looks super cool—I've imagined something similar, especially the skill tree/knowledge map UI. Looking forward to trying it out. Have you considered using the LLM to give tests/quizzes (perhaps just conversationally) in order to measure progress and uncover weak spots?
- tootyskooty 1y ago
  There are both in-document quizzes and larger exams (at a course level). I've also been playing around with adapting content based on their results (e.g. proactively nudging complexity up/down) but haven't gotten it to a good place yet.
  - danenania 1y ago
    Nice, I've been playing with it a bit and it seems really well done and polished so far. I'm curious how long you spent building it? Only feedback I have so far is that it would be nice to control the playback speed of the 'read aloud' mode. I'd like it to be a little bit faster.
    - tootyskooty 1y ago
      Glad you like it!! I've been working on it on-and-off for about a year now. Roughly 2-3 months if I worked on it full-time I'm guessing. re: playback speed -> noted, will add some controls tomorrow
    - tootyskooty 1y ago
      Just added a proper playback control component on desktop, allows changing rate, rewinding & persists across pages :)!
      - danenania 1y ago
        Awesome! Will try it soon. What's your GTM plan? You built an amazing app—I hope you are focusing as much on marketing as adding features! I think a lot of people will like this if you get it in front of them.

bo1024 1y ago

Agree, one thing that brought this home was the example where the student asks to learn all of game theory. There seems to be an assumption on both sides that this will be accomplished in a single chat session by a linear pass, necessarily at a pretty superficial level.

kamranahmedse 1y ago

We are trying to solve this at https://roadmap.sh/ai https://roadmap.sh/ai It's still a work in progress but we are trying to make it better everyday

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energy123 1y ago

Yeah. And how to tie in the teacher into all this. Need the teacher to upload the context, like the textbook, so the LLM can refer to tangible class material.