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> normies get annoyed quickly because they expect it to work like deterministic software In very few use cases it is acceptable to have non-deterministic resul
by surgical_fire 1y ago
> normies get annoyed quickly because they expect it to work like deterministic software
In very few use cases it is acceptable to have non-deterministic result for computation tasks. It does not matter if you are a normie or an advanced user.
- dotancohen 1y agoNormal people don't understand what the word deterministic is, nor do they really expect their software to produce deterministic results. For one thing, they're not running the operation multiple times and comparing the outputs. For another, if they give the same task to three different people they're going to get three different results anyway, so what does it matter if the computer gives three different results, if they even notice.
- izacus 1y agoWhat are you basing those claims on?
- surgical_fire 1y ago> Normal people don't understand what the word deterministic is I would argue that they implicitly do, as any user expects the same action performed on a computer or similar system to provide the same outcome. > For another, if they give the same task to three different people they're going to get three different results Give the same three tasks to a single user to be executed three times separately, and he will get supremely annoyed if his actions do not give him the same results.
- bigstrat2003 1y agoNot even implicitly understand. A layman is perfectly capable of understanding what deterministic behavior is, and claiming otherwise is just condescension.
- dotancohen 1y agoThen you and I work with very different people. Here it seems "reset it and try again" is considered a viable problem solving technique.
- surgical_fire 1y agoIt sometimes is, as resetting may clean some dirty state. Even when people don't really understand why they are doing it, and are merely following trends they saw elsewhere, it does not invalidate the point.
- fn-mote 1y agoI think “normal” (non-computer) people have a mental model for computing that is more like a (possibly bad) coworker. They would quickly adapt to “reload it a few times if it doesn’t work right away”. Isn’t this what people are already doing when they browse the web? I know I am.