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Such as? I'm far from an expert but this has been an interest of mine for years -- deeper than just watching Food, Inc. You're right that livestock in feedlot

Such as? I'm far from an expert but this has been an interest of mine for years -- deeper than just watching Food, Inc. You're right that livestock in feedlots carry awful diseases. But in proper conditions--you could even say humane conditions--they don't inherently carry any more diseases than you or I. I mean, what are you arguing for exactly? That we shouldn't use natural sources of NPK? Try your hand at explaining that.

Turing_Machine 14y ago
"they don't inherently carry any more diseases than you or I." I don't eat crops fertilized with human feces, either. "That we shouldn't use natural sources of NPK? Try your hand at explaining that." I don't like famines that kill millions of people.
- Turing_Machine 14y ago
  I also don't think I'd care to live in a world where 90+% of us were illiterate peasants bound to the soil (serfs if we were lucky, slaves if not), spending our entire lives on hand-cultivation of crops. That was the norm essentially everywhere on the planet right up until the development of modern, mechanized agriculture.
- encoderer 14y ago
  Do you think there's no natural manure fertilizer on your crops? You've got an interesting argument here. You're against organic food because it's more likely to spread bacteria and parasites? But you've not really offered any facts, just blanket statements. I'm going to bow-out of this now -- apologize if I'm reading this wrong but this all seems too trollish for my tastes.
  - Turing_Machine 14y ago
    I've provided links for everything. You've provided none. A couple more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines Note how few of these occurred in countries with industrialized agriculture (the exceptions being cause by war devastation or the like). https://www.google.com/search?q=percentage+of+population+in+farming+middle+ages https://www.google.com/search?q=percentage+of+population+in+... Numerous sources demonstrating that pre-industrial farming resulted in 90-odd percent of the population being peasants.

Turing_Machine 14y ago

"they don't inherently carry any more diseases than you or I." I don't eat crops fertilized with human feces, either. "That we shouldn't use natural sources of NPK? Try your hand at explaining that." I don't like famines that kill millions of people.

Turing_Machine 14y ago
I also don't think I'd care to live in a world where 90+% of us were illiterate peasants bound to the soil (serfs if we were lucky, slaves if not), spending our entire lives on hand-cultivation of crops. That was the norm essentially everywhere on the planet right up until the development of modern, mechanized agriculture.
encoderer 14y ago
Do you think there's no natural manure fertilizer on your crops? You've got an interesting argument here. You're against organic food because it's more likely to spread bacteria and parasites? But you've not really offered any facts, just blanket statements. I'm going to bow-out of this now -- apologize if I'm reading this wrong but this all seems too trollish for my tastes.
- Turing_Machine 14y ago
  I've provided links for everything. You've provided none. A couple more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines Note how few of these occurred in countries with industrialized agriculture (the exceptions being cause by war devastation or the like). https://www.google.com/search?q=percentage+of+population+in+farming+middle+ages https://www.google.com/search?q=percentage+of+population+in+... Numerous sources demonstrating that pre-industrial farming resulted in 90-odd percent of the population being peasants.