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Launch HN: Hyprnote (YC S25) – An open-source AI meeting notetaker

270 points by yujonglee 1y ago

Hi HN! We're Yujong, John, Duck, and Sung from Hyprnote (https://hyprnote.com https://hyprnote.com). We're building an open-source, privacy-first AI note-taking app that runs fully on-device. Think of it as an open-source Granola. No Zoom bots, no cloud APIs, no data ever leaves your machine. Source code: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote Demo video: https://hyprnote.com/demo https://hyprnote.com/demo We built Hyprnote because some of our friends told us that their companies banned certain meeting notetakers due to data concerns, or they simply felt uncomfortable sending data to unknown servers. So they went back to manual note-taking - losing focus during meetings and wasting time afterward. We asked: could we build something just as useful, but completely local? Hyprnote is a desktop app that transcribes and summarizes meetings on-device. It captures both your mic input and system audio, so you don't need to invite bots. It generates a summary based on the notes you take. Everything runs on local AI models by default, using Whisper and HyprLLM. HyprLLM is our proof-of-concept model fine-tuned from Qwen3 1.7B. We learned that summarizing meetings is a very nuanced task and that a model's raw intelligence (or weight) doesn't matter THAT much. We'll release more details on evaluation and training once we finish the 2nd iteration of the model (still not that good we can make it a lot better). Whisper inference: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/crates/whisper-local/src/model.rs https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/crates/whispe... AEC inference: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/crates/aec/src/lib.rs https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/crates/aec/sr... LLM inference: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/crates/llama/src/lib.rs https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/crates/llama/... We also learned that for some folks, having full data controllability was as important as privacy. So we support custom endpoints, allowing users to bring in their company's internal LLM. For teams that need integrations, collaboration, or admin controls, we're working on an optional server component that can be self-hosted. Lastly, we're exploring ways to make Hyprnote work like VSCode, so you can install extensions and build your own workflows around your meetings. We believe privacy-first tools, powered by local models, are going to unlock the next wave of real-world AI apps. We're here and looking forward to your comments!

swyx 1y ago
congrats, app looks gorgeous. def a good tauri codebase to study ( been using https://deepwiki.com/fastrepl/hyprnote https://deepwiki.com/fastrepl/hyprnote) any interest in the Cluely-style live conversation help/overlay?
- johntopia 1y ago
  thanks! we're focusing on local-first at the moment which makes real-time assist a bit challenging. but we definitely have something similar on our mind - for example, a live summary of what's been going on during the past 5 mins. planning to support this via extension in the future!
yunohn 1y ago
Super cool, congrats on the launch - will be trying this soon! I noticed it’s using Tauri - what are your main takeaways from building a local inference desktop app with it?
- yujonglee 1y ago
  Thanks. I learned that running a server on the Rust side and calling it from a TypeScript frontend is a good approach. For example, we run an OpenAI-compatible server using a Tauri plugin (https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/plugins/local-llm/src https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/plugins/local...) and call it using the Vercel AI SDK.
  - yunohn 1y ago
    I’ve been thinking about ways to reuse Vercel’s AI SDK, so this is a great one - thanks for sharing!
    - yujonglee 1y ago
      Also you might find this interesting: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/packages/utils/src/ai.ts https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/packages/util....
      - yunohn 1y ago
        Super neat! You’ve made an impressive amount of cool specialized crates - have you considered making them generally usable to the wider community and licensing them under LGPL/MIT instead of GPL?
        yujonglee 1y ago
        we def considered it. our line of thinking is start with more restrictive license, and later switch to MIT or something once we figure things out :)
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nkotov 1y ago
Really cool - how does it compare to Granola outside of the OSS part?
- yujonglee 1y ago
  Local-first, controllability(custom endpoint part), and eventually extensibility(VSCode part of the post) We're putting a lot of effort into making it run smoothly on local machines. There are no signups, and the app works without any internet connection after downloading models.
  - ashishact 1y ago
    One of the things I would want to do is - As the meeting is going on - I would like to ask a LLM what questions I could ask at that point in time. Especially if it's a subject I am not expert in. Would I be able to create an extension that could do this?
    - johntopia 1y ago
      you can definitely do that in the future. but we had that on our mind as well from multiple requests - planning to add "eli5 - explain like i'm five" and "mmss - make me sound smart" ;) (edit: grammar fix)
      - quesera 1y ago
        Wow, does anything like this exist in current commercial tools? ELI5 sounds useful. MMSS sounds terrifying though, honestly.
        johntopia 1y ago
        i think there are tools like cluely - where they propose to "cheat" on everything in real-time. or just wearables like waves that shows ar displays with real-time assist. (i've never used both of them before, but i understood their products like this) so proactive ai agents are somewhat becoming a thing I guess. but it all boils down to privacy for us. mmss was something that a lot of users suggested - they wanted to be saved from public humiliation
theodorewiles 1y ago
Looks really cool - I noticed Enterprise has smart consent management? The thing I think some enterprise customers are worried about in this space is that in many jurisdictions you legally need to disclose recording - having a bot join the call can do that disclosure - but users hate the bot and it takes up too much visibility on many of these calls. Would love to learn more about your approach there
- johntopia 1y ago
  yes, we’re rolling out flexible consent options based on legal needs - like chat messages, silent bots, blinking backgrounds, or consent links before/during meetings. but still figuring out if there's a more elegant way to do this. would love to hear your take as well.
  - theodorewiles 1y ago
    Please shoot me a note - I'm trying to figure this out for my enterprise now, would love to figure out a way to get you in / trial it out.
    - johntopia 1y ago
      can i send you a follow-up to the email that's on your profile?
      - theodorewiles 1y ago
        yes
yonl 1y ago
Congrats on the launch. I never understood why an AI meeting notetaker needed sota LLMs and subscriptions (talking about literally all the other notetakers) - thanks for making it local first. I use a locally patched up whisperx + qwen3:1.7 + nomic embed (ofcourse with a swift script that picks up the audio buffer from microphone) and it works just fine. Rarely i create next steps / sop from the transcript - i use gemini 2.5 and export it as pdf. I’ll give Hyprnote a try soon. I hope, since it’s opensource, you are thinking about exposing api / hooks for downstream tasks.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  What kind of API/Hooks you expect us to expose? We are down to do that.
  - sjayasinghe 1y ago
    The ability to receive live transcripts from a webhook, including speaker diarization metadata would be super useful.
    - yujonglee 1y ago
      webhook to the localhost server, right?
  - headcanon 1y ago
    registering an MCP server and calling an MCP tool upon transcript completion (and/or summary completion) would help (check out actionsperminute.io for the vision there). Calendar integration would be nice to link transcripts to discrete meetings.
    - yujonglee 1y ago
      That makes sense. Please add more details here: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/issues/1203 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/issues/1203 For calendar, we have native Apple Calendar integration in MacOS.
marcofiset 1y ago
The only issue I have with those tools, and I have not seen a single one even acknowledge this, is that it becomes completely useless when holding meetings in a hybrid fashion where some people are remote and others are in the office with a shared mic. Almost all of our meetings are hybrid in this way, and it's a real pain having almost half of the meeting be identified as a single individual talking because the mic is hooked up to their machine. It's a total dealbreaker for us, and we won't use such tools until that problem is solved.
- nashashmi 1y ago
  you might need an AI for in-person meeting first. Such tools are available to doctors who see patients. The note taking is great but I think it is skewed towards one-person summary where the name of the patient remains unknown. I wonder if the same tool can take notes if two patients are in the room and distinguish between each one. The second tool is likely hardware limitation. A multi-cam-mic with beam forming capability to deconstruct overlapping sounds.
  - johntopia 1y ago
    hyprnote can be used for in-person meetings as well! we have doctors like ophthalmologists or psychiatrists using it right now. and yes - definitely going to be working on speaker identification as it crucial.
- dkdcio 1y ago
  I think if you put N-1 mics in the room (where N is the number of people) you could easily identify all individuals...
- yujonglee 1y ago
  It can be solved with speaker segmentation/embedding models, although it is not perfect. One thing we do with Hyprnote is that we have a Descript-like transcript editor that allows you to easily edit/assign speakers. Once we integrate a speaker diarization model with that, I think we'll be in good shape. If you are interested, you can join our Discord and follow updates. :) https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord
ls-a 1y ago
Looks great. From my experience Tauri team has no clue what mobile is and they're not interested in fixing mobile issues. I can already tell the mobile version will be a disappointment.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  We tried Tauri mobile (few months ago) and had the same disappointment. We will use RN or Dioxus(to share Rust code) for the mobile version. So it will be cool :)
  - ls-a 1y ago
    I'm glad you figured that out early on. Sounds like mobile is going to be great indeed
  - toisanji 1y ago
    is this a known pattern, I did a basic tauri app, but not sure what to do with mobile yet...
    - johntopia 1y ago
      from our experience, we tried using stackflow on the frontend but encountered problems with responsive keyboard layouts. thought it was stackflow's problem but soon realized that it just wasn't implemented in tauri yet. ref: https://github.com/daangn/stackflow https://github.com/daangn/stackflow
nashashmi 1y ago
I was talking about this a week ago. One person wanted to make a pdf tutorial of how to use a software. I asked him to record himself in teams and share his screen and have AI take notes. It will create a fabulous summary with snapshots of everything he is going over.
b0dhimind 1y ago
Look forward to testing the Windows version. Hope it has ability to also upload recordings, etc. Meetily is nice but setup feels too convoluted, with a backend and frontend being required to separately install...
- johntopia 1y ago
  will push harder! hop into our discord(https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord) to get the latest updates :) you can sign up to the waitlist on our website as well.
woadwarrior01 1y ago
Congrats on the launch. Is there a reason why the app isn't sandboxed?
- yujonglee 1y ago
  What kind of sandboxing you expect? keen to learn more about it since we care about security too. (one reason why we use Tauri over Electron)
  - woadwarrior01 1y ago
    Just the default macOS sandboxing entitlement[1], which is mandatory for all apps on the Mac App Store, and optional for notarized apps. [1]: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/configuring-the-macos-app-sandbox https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/configuring-...
    - yujonglee 1y ago
      thank you for letting me know! will look into this
p2hari 1y ago
I just downloaded on mac M4 pro mini. I installed the apple silicon version and try to launch it and it fails. No error message or anything. Just the icon keep bouncing on the dock. I assumed it needs some privacy and screen recording and audio permissions and explicitly gave them, however still just jumps on the dock and the app does not open. (OS, mac sequoia 15.5)
- johntopia 1y ago
  working on trying to identify the problem! could you come over to our discord where we could better support you? https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord
- yujonglee 1y ago
  That is very strange. Can you launch it from the command line and share what you got? /Applications/Hyprnote.app/Contents/MacOS/Hyprnote
- yujonglee 1y ago
  Seems like https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/d0cb0122556da5f517d8232103233aa0c7150932/crates/audio/src/lib.rs#L77 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/d0cb0122556da5f517... this is invalid on Mac mini. Should be fixed today.
kocial 1y ago
Nicely done, I or someone can push the translation option too. Well done.
- johntopia 1y ago
  what language do you have in mind? would love to know!
turnsout 1y ago
Congrats! I'm currently a Granola user, and wanted to build this myself a while back. But I probably wouldn't have gone as far as fine-tuning a small model for meeting summarization. Can't wait to try it out!
- yujonglee 1y ago
  Super! let us know how it goes! (we have discord channel too)
  - turnsout 1y ago
    Installation and onboarding was nice & smooth! A few random bits of realtime feedback: You have an icon with the Finder face labeled "Open Finder view." I would expect this to open the app's data folder in the macOS Finder. Instead, it opens an accessory window with some helpful views such as calendar view. I'd encourage you to find another name for that window, because it's too confusing to call it "Finder" (especially with the icon). I'd also add a menu item for Settings (and Command-comma shortcut) in the Application menu. You also need a dark mode at some point. Finally, I'm not sure where note files end up. Seeing that there's an Obsidian integration, I would love an option to save notes in Markdown format into a folder of my choice. I'm an iA Writer user, and would love to have meeting notes go directly into my existing notes folder. I'll let you know how the actual functionality is working for me after my next few meetings!
    - johntopia 1y ago
      haha we couldn't find a better icon for the "Finder" view so we just went with the classic one. but i guess it's confusing - noted. we do have settings shortcut already! be sure to test it out :) dark mode - noted as well. we save our notes in db.sqlite that can be found in: ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.hyprnote.stable this decision was made because we have three documents - raw note, enhanced note, and transcript - assigned to a meeting note. would love to create an iA integration for you - or just a simple way to export MD for the time being join our discord for more updates! https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord
teiferer 1y ago
Nice! Would be great if you could include in your launch message how you plan to monetize this. Everybody likes open source software and local-first is excellent too, but if you mention YC too then everybody also knows that there is no free lunch, so what's coming down the line would be good to know before deciding whether to give it a shot or just move on.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  For individuals: We have a Pro license implemented in our app. Some non-essential features like custom templates or multi-turn chat are gated behind a paid license. (A custom STT model will also be included soon.) There's still no sign-up required. We use keygen.sh to generate offline-verifiable license keys. Currently, it's priced at $179/year. For business: If they want to self-host some kind of admin server with integrations, access control, and SSO, we plan to sell a business license.
  - teiferer 1y ago
    Does that mean the admin server is not open source?
    - yujonglee 1y ago
      no. it is open source. https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/apps/admin https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/apps/admin
  - thedevilslawyer 1y ago
    Another sso.tax candidate. Let's actively not support software that chooses anti-security.
    - johntopia 1y ago
      totally fair concern. we’re actually on the same side when it comes to promoting good security practices like SSO. the reason we’re gating the admin server under a business license is less about profiting off sso and more about drawing a line between individual and organizational use. it includes a bunch of enterprise-specific features (sso, access control, integrations, ...) that typically require more support and maintenance. that said, the core app is fully open-source and always will be - so individuals and teams who don’t need the admin layer can still use it freely and privately, without compromising security. we’ll keep listening and evolving the model - after all, we're still very early and flexible. appreciate the pushback. (edit: added some more words to reinforce our flexibility)
rushingcreek 1y ago
Congrats on the launch! I'm very bullish on how powerful <10B-param models are becoming, so the on-device angle is cool (and great for your bottom line too, as it's cheaper for you to run). Something that I think is interesting about AI note taking products is focus. How does it choose what's important vs what isn't? The better it is at distinguishing the signal from the noise, the more powerful it is. I wonder if there is an in-context learning angle here where you can update the model weights (either directly or via LoRA) as you get to know the user better. And, of course, everything stays private and on-device.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  > How does it choose what's important vs what isn't? The idea of Hyprnote is that you write chicken-scratch-raw note during the meeting(what you think is important), and AI enhance based on it. On-device learning is interesting too. For example, Gboard: https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.18465 https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.18465 And yes - we are open to this too
manveerc 1y ago
Congratulations! Is there a mobile version as well, especially for Android?
- johntopia 1y ago
  have it planned for the 4th quarter!
  - manveerc 1y ago
    Awesome, will look forward to it!
    - johntopia 1y ago
      it would be awesome if you could come to our discord where we can keep you posted :)
thephotonsphere 1y ago
Looks promising, but "Linux maybe"? Signing off.
- johntopia 1y ago
  it was a joke! we are strongly considering to get it done after windows(shipping in aug)
- johntopia 1y ago
  updated readme :) >> Linux (of course)
tomr75 1y ago
why use whisper over parakeet? how will you monetise?
- yujonglee 1y ago
  Whisper is more lightweight and smaller. We will support Parakeet in the near future too. Monetization: For individuals: We have a Pro license implemented in our app. Some non-essential features like custom templates or multi-turn chat are gated behind a paid license. (A custom STT model will also be included soon.) There's still no sign-up required. We use keygen.sh to generate offline-verifiable license keys. Currently, it's priced at $179/year. For business: If they want to self-host some kind of admin server with integrations, access control, and SSO, we plan to sell a business license.
pokechamp 1y ago
another free tier (but not opensource) recording tool Ive been using is MacWhisper. Does this and more all locally too. Will try hyprnote out because its neat to do the transcription in real time and its note taking purposes https://goodsnooze.gumroad.com/l/macwhisper https://goodsnooze.gumroad.com/l/macwhisper
- yujonglee 1y ago
  we will support even faster realtime transcription in near future. (within few weeks)
  - satvikpendem 1y ago
    What model? All the realtime transcription services I've seen are Whisper wrappers or custom closed source ones.
    - yujonglee 1y ago
      It's custom model. (whisper variant)
      - satvikpendem 1y ago
        Makes sense. How well do you expect Hyprnote to work on mobile? I found that phones in general are still pretty weak at AI inference on-device still.
        yujonglee 1y ago
        I think it will work pretty well considering how rapid it moves. (See gemma3n, Cactus etc)
kpen11 1y ago
This is really cool! I've been using Obsidian more and more as a second brain and getting data in has consistently been the point of failure, so I've been wanting something just like this. Specifically something that runs locally and offline. Is the future goal of Hyprnote specifically meeting notes and leaning into features around meeting notes, or more general note taking and recall features?
- yujonglee 1y ago
  At least for near future, we'll focusing on meeting notepad side of a thing. We actually have "export to Obsidian". I think you can pair Hyprnote nicely with Obsidian. Screenshot: https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/5149b68d-486c-4bd8-82f2-a00833d9f555 https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/5149b68d-486c-4bd... You need this plugin installed in Obsidian first: https://github.com/coddingtonbear/obsidian-local-rest-api https://github.com/coddingtonbear/obsidian-local-rest-api Obsidian export code 1: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/d0cb0122556da5f517d8232103233aa0c7150932/apps/desktop/src/components/toolbar/buttons/share-button.tsx#L348 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/d0cb0122556da5f517... Obsidian export code 2: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/plugins/obsidian https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/plugins/obsid...
  - kpen11 1y ago
    Thanks for the reply! I will try it out :)
ljosa 1y ago
Why in the world is there _background music_ when I start the app?!
- yujonglee 1y ago
  We thought it'll be cool :) sorry if that disturbs you.
  - ljosa 1y ago
    Glad you're having fun, but it had the "website with autoplay" vibe.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  It should be played only during onboarding. No music while using the app
humblechan 1y ago
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Adrig 1y ago
Since this isn't available yet on Windows, what would be the glue & duct tape alternative? Record audio and dump it in chatGPT? Or do you need to create some kind of automation with n8n / Zapier? I don't have that many meetings but it could be nice to have
- yujonglee 1y ago
  https://github.com/thewh1teagle/vibe https://github.com/thewh1teagle/vibe Only for speech to text though.
  - Adrig 1y ago
    Thanks!
- pnw 1y ago
  I've been using https://www.quillmeetings.com/ https://www.quillmeetings.com/ on Windows for a few months and it's been great. It processes locally in the same fashion i.e. no cloud requirement. Paid subscription, not open source.
  - Adrig 1y ago
    Their free plan might be just what I need. Thanks, I'll have a look
    - johntopia 1y ago
      you might also like shadow if you're interested in just local speech-to-text
syngrog66 1y ago
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btown 1y ago
How are you balancing accuracy vs. time-to-word-on-live-transcript? Is this something you're actively balancing, or can allow an end user to tune? I find myself often using otter.ai - because while it's inferior to Whisper in many ways, and anything but on-device, it's able to show words on the live transcript with minimal delay, rather than waiting for a moment of silence or for a multi-second buffer to fill. That's vital if I'm using my live transcription both to drive async summarization/notes and for my operational use in the same call, to let me speed-read to catch up to a question that was just posed to me while I was multitasking (or doing research for a prior question!) It sometimes boggles me that we consider the latency of keypress-to-character-on-screen to be sacrosanct, but are fine with waiting for a phrase or paragraph or even an entire conversation to be complete before visualizing its transcription. Being able to control this would be incredible.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  It is more like ai model problem(then app logic. doing it more frequently will require more computation. Things like speculative decoding can help though). Doing it locally is hard, but we expect to ship it very soon. Please join our Discord(https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord) if you are interested to hear from us.
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itsalotoffun 1y ago
I'm always amazed at these relatively tiny projects that "launch" with a "customers" list that reads like they've spent 10 years doing hard outbound enterprise sales: Google, Intel, Apple, Amazon, Deloitte, IBM, Ford, Meta, Uber, Tencent, etc.
- johntopia 1y ago
  have to admit that we did some logo plays. but our users are really all over the place and just wanted to show it off! i am not sure how it looked but that's why we didn't use terms like "teams" or "customers" to be honest while showing some validation.
  - Lionga 1y ago
    "Logo play" is such a YCombinator word for Lie.
    - yaseer 1y ago
      It says "Our users are everywhere" and shows some logos for the companies these users are from. If the users are from those companies, this is not lying. If they added logos for companies their users are not from, it would be lying. Adding a logo to your webpage has started to follow different patterns for the stage of the company. Early stage companies show things like "people at X, Y, Z use our product!" (showing logos without permission), whilst later stage ones tend to show logos after asking for permission, and with more formal case studies. They may not have asked for permission to show these logos, but that's not the same thing as lying.
      - weego 1y ago
        There's a lot of heavy lifting in the idea that someone who tried it / used it of their own volition that happens to work for, say Google, is the same as indicating that your product is "used by Google". It's a lie of accuracy, but still a lie.
anyg 1y ago
This is perfect timing! I just cancelled my fireflies.ai subscription yesterday because it just felt unnecessary. I prefer using less platforms and more tools, especially those that can work under the surface.
- johntopia 1y ago
  happy to support you! would love to hear your feedback. we have a discord up and running, fyi.
  - anyg 1y ago
    i will give it a spin this week and share feedback :)
crashabr 1y ago
Do you intend to reach feature parity with something like MacWhisper? I'd love to switch to something open source, but automated meeting detection, push to transcribe (with custom rewrite actions) are two features I've learned to love, beside basic transcript. I also enjoy the automatic transcription from an audio, video or a even a YouTube link. But because MacWhisper does not store transcripts or do much with them (other than giving you export options), there are some missed opportunities: I'd love to be able to add project tags to transcripts, so that any new transcript is summarized with the context of all previous transcript summaries that share the same tag. Thinking about it maybe I should build a Logseq extension to do that myself as I store all my meeting summaries there anyway. Speaker detection is not great in MacWhisper (at least in my context where I work mostly with non native English speakers), so that would be a good differentiation too.
- johntopia 1y ago
  definitely planning to catch up to other tools - we ship FAST! automated meeting detection - working on this. push to transcribe - want to understand more about this. (could we talk more over at our discord? https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord) if you're using logseq, we'd love to build an integration for you. finally, speaker identification is a big challenge for us too. so many things to do - so exciting!
  - dexterdog 1y ago
    > finally, speaker identification is a big challenge for us too. But your home page makes it looks like you already have it. I just tried it in a 30-minute meeting with 20 people and it put the entire conversation under a single speaker, in a single paragraph.
    - yujonglee 1y ago
      I acknowledge that it's outdated. When we were writing the landing page, we thought we could ship the first version of speaker diarization/identification within a few days. However, due to various challenges and priority changes, we haven't been able to do so yet. We'll update the landing page soon.
Zardoz84 1y ago
I would like to try this on Linux
- johntopia 1y ago
  we move the status from "maybe" to "of course". we are definitely interested as well :)
joos3 1y ago
Let's go! Trying it out, appreciate you building this as the hosted/online alternatives (Granola, Notion recorder, ChatGPT recorder etc) don't really make sense if you can record locally.
- johntopia 1y ago
  hope you give us some feedback that we can push further on! this is our discord(https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord) if you're interested
danneezhao 1y ago
How to deal with the AI meeting recording function that comes with conference software？
- johntopia 1y ago
  hyprnote listens to both sounds coming out(system audio output) and going in(microphone input) so it will work perfectly fine with virtual meetings.
kriro 1y ago
Curious what made you decide to start with the macOS version. Some insight that most potential customers are on Macs or simply "we use Macs, dogfood time"? I'd always target Windows first for these tools. Looks cool, I'll wait for the Linux version and try it. Integration of automatic translations could be an interesting business plan value-add. Branching out into CRM things also makes sense to me. Good luck, keep shipping.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  Agreed. We are working on Windows too. For macOS, it is dogfooding, and also lots of AI models are Mac optimized + overall Mac device more powerful than windows, so suited to on-device thing.
hidelooktropic 1y ago
Unfortunately the GPL license makes it dead in the water for using something like this at work :(
- mentalgear 1y ago
  Why? You can use it, only if you want to extend the tool as part of your (paid) work, you are meant to contribute the code changes back. But none of it should prevent someone from just using it (GPL does not mean any usage data is being made "public").
- johntopia 1y ago
  what are the licenses allowed for your company? would love to learn more.
mentalgear 1y ago
Looks great & kudos for making it local-first & open-source, much appreciated! From a business perspective, and as someone looking also into the open-source model to launch tools, I'd be interested though how you expect revenue to be generated? Is it solely relying on the audience segment that doesn't know how to hook up the API manually to use the open-source version? How do you calculate this, since pushing it via open-source/github you would think that most people exposed to it are technical enough to just run it from source.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  I mentioned about the monetization plan in other threads! (search with 'license'). Hope that make sense
polyaniline 1y ago
I just tried to build on Linux and it keeps panicking because it requires dozen(s) of API keys. I was not expecting that from local first software.
- hahajk 1y ago
  I'm also interested in learning about why the API keys are required to build.
  - yujonglee 1y ago
    There are only 2 api keys that is required to build (POSTHOG, SENTRY), and also not required to build in dev, only in release build. I made it required to prevent accidentally ship app without any analytics/error tracking. (analytics can be opted out) For ex, https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/327ef376c1091d093c73181325513811a8b4ca82/apps/desktop/src-tauri/src/lib.rs#L30-L40 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/327ef376c1091d093c... EDIT: Prod -> release
    - vanschelven 1y ago
      You might want to reconsider ”no data ever leaves your machine" from the post :) Given your target market, have you considered looking at Bugsink?[0] sentry compatible. still not local, but at least you won't have to additionally ask your customers to trust sentry/posthog. Disclosure: that's me [0] https://www.bugsink.com/ https://www.bugsink.com/
      - yujonglee 1y ago
        Bugsink looks interesting. Will take a look.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  That is not actually required. You can even set empty key for that. Also Linux issue pointer: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/issues/67#issuecomment-3135811598 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/issues/67#issuecomment-...
AlexErrant 1y ago
I'm building a voice-controlled app, so it requires transcription. The problem is that the app talks back, so some amount of AEC is needed. It looks like your "generic" AEC is ML powered, but your planned platform specific AEC may use non-ML tech (i.e. looks like you're considering Windows/Mac specific APIs). Have you had a bad experience with AI powered AEC?
- yujonglee 1y ago
  > Have you had a bad experience with AI powered AEC? no. actually it is pretty good :)
  - AlexErrant 1y ago
    Forgive my probing, but why consider Windows/Mac specific APIs then?
ljosa 1y ago
I just tried this for a standup meeting, and the inability to tell who said what is a show stopper. You'll need to add speaker diarization for this to be useful for more than 1:1s.
- johntopia 1y ago
  agreed - we understand that speaker identification is crucial when it comes to extracting action items and we're actively working on this!
believ3 1y ago
Any plans to integrate with native Apple Notes app?
- yujonglee 1y ago
  what kind of integration you expect? export?
eawgewag 1y ago
I honestly don't care that much if Granola uploads my notes to some external service. Work conversations are not private anyways. HOWEVER, I was extremely disturbed to find out that Granola was automatically making each of my notes folders public to the entire organization. Including 1:1s, you guessed it. Yeah, really shook my trust in this product by a lot.
- johntopia 1y ago
  hyprnote stores and processes data entirely on-device — but you can also bring your own model for better quality and have controllability.
shepardrtc 1y ago
How much data is being sent to Sentry?
- yujonglee 1y ago
  We don't do any manual call to Sentry at this point. Just standard report when something panics
Myrmornis 1y ago
This looks exactly like something that I've been saying to myself that I want! Installed, and already used to transcribe two meetings. At the moment I think that I'm going to carry on using this. Keep going, it looks great!
- johntopia 1y ago
  awesome! hope we can meet you in our discord :)
jihomie 1y ago
Hello, I am a manager at a tech firm. Came across your product, and feeling this could be a thing I was looking for these days - recently got banned of some notetakers. Impressive demo video btw! First of all I wanna try this on my personal device. How can I implement your product in my devices? I also want to discuss some points (on-device, self-hosting, open-source, etc.) to persuade our compliance team, as well
- johntopia 1y ago
  would love to support you! you can just download it from our website if you're using a mac.
  - jihomie 1y ago
    Thanks for the prompt response. How about the Window(more of native Window OS than VM or WSL) case? What's your plan for Window version launch and support?
    - johntopia 1y ago
      windows will be launched in august! is your org mostly using windows? or is it just you?
      - jihomie 1y ago
        I use windows, but colleagues are mostly using mac - around 30 to 70?
      - johntopia 1y ago
        could you send me an email? it's john@fastrepl.com - let's talk more!
whitefang 1y ago
I started building something like this for myself and though it would be useful. I have a decent mac only working working but what you have built is great. This one is completely open source and local, no api calls required at all. Quality can better with newer models which has to be worked on. https://github.com/acorn-globus/waveflow https://github.com/acorn-globus/waveflow
cat-whisperer 1y ago
Dude, you should def checkout parcl.cloud
tito 1y ago
Hey, from the demo video, I thought it was entering the answers to your pre-entered questions based on the transcript, but it looks like you're just typing in the answers. Is that right?
jpencausse 1y ago
Question : In a nutshell you ask an LLM to summarize the transcript and input some notes to help frame the results that's all ? It could be done with ChatGPT + Notepad ? Yes it could be fully local, but to do that you need a serious computer and a way to distribute Whisper (on Windows) FYI I tried something close, but comparing Plaud and Whisper (on Windows) Plaud wins far ahead.

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swyx 1y ago

congrats, app looks gorgeous. def a good tauri codebase to study ( been using https://deepwiki.com/fastrepl/hyprnote https://deepwiki.com/fastrepl/hyprnote) any interest in the Cluely-style live conversation help/overlay?

johntopia 1y ago
thanks! we're focusing on local-first at the moment which makes real-time assist a bit challenging. but we definitely have something similar on our mind - for example, a live summary of what's been going on during the past 5 mins. planning to support this via extension in the future!

yunohn 1y ago

Super cool, congrats on the launch - will be trying this soon! I noticed it’s using Tauri - what are your main takeaways from building a local inference desktop app with it?

yujonglee 1y ago
Thanks. I learned that running a server on the Rust side and calling it from a TypeScript frontend is a good approach. For example, we run an OpenAI-compatible server using a Tauri plugin (https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/plugins/local-llm/src https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/plugins/local...) and call it using the Vercel AI SDK.
- yunohn 1y ago
  I’ve been thinking about ways to reuse Vercel’s AI SDK, so this is a great one - thanks for sharing!
  - yujonglee 1y ago
    Also you might find this interesting: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/packages/utils/src/ai.ts https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/main/packages/util....
    - yunohn 1y ago
      Super neat! You’ve made an impressive amount of cool specialized crates - have you considered making them generally usable to the wider community and licensing them under LGPL/MIT instead of GPL?
      - yujonglee 1y ago
        we def considered it. our line of thinking is start with more restrictive license, and later switch to MIT or something once we figure things out :)
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nkotov 1y ago

Really cool - how does it compare to Granola outside of the OSS part?

yujonglee 1y ago
Local-first, controllability(custom endpoint part), and eventually extensibility(VSCode part of the post) We're putting a lot of effort into making it run smoothly on local machines. There are no signups, and the app works without any internet connection after downloading models.
- ashishact 1y ago
  One of the things I would want to do is - As the meeting is going on - I would like to ask a LLM what questions I could ask at that point in time. Especially if it's a subject I am not expert in. Would I be able to create an extension that could do this?
  - johntopia 1y ago
    you can definitely do that in the future. but we had that on our mind as well from multiple requests - planning to add "eli5 - explain like i'm five" and "mmss - make me sound smart" ;) (edit: grammar fix)
    - quesera 1y ago
      Wow, does anything like this exist in current commercial tools? ELI5 sounds useful. MMSS sounds terrifying though, honestly.
      - johntopia 1y ago
        i think there are tools like cluely - where they propose to "cheat" on everything in real-time. or just wearables like waves that shows ar displays with real-time assist. (i've never used both of them before, but i understood their products like this) so proactive ai agents are somewhat becoming a thing I guess. but it all boils down to privacy for us. mmss was something that a lot of users suggested - they wanted to be saved from public humiliation

theodorewiles 1y ago

Looks really cool - I noticed Enterprise has smart consent management? The thing I think some enterprise customers are worried about in this space is that in many jurisdictions you legally need to disclose recording - having a bot join the call can do that disclosure - but users hate the bot and it takes up too much visibility on many of these calls. Would love to learn more about your approach there

johntopia 1y ago
yes, we’re rolling out flexible consent options based on legal needs - like chat messages, silent bots, blinking backgrounds, or consent links before/during meetings. but still figuring out if there's a more elegant way to do this. would love to hear your take as well.
- theodorewiles 1y ago
  Please shoot me a note - I'm trying to figure this out for my enterprise now, would love to figure out a way to get you in / trial it out.
  - johntopia 1y ago
    can i send you a follow-up to the email that's on your profile?
    - theodorewiles 1y ago
      yes

yonl 1y ago

Congrats on the launch. I never understood why an AI meeting notetaker needed sota LLMs and subscriptions (talking about literally all the other notetakers) - thanks for making it local first. I use a locally patched up whisperx + qwen3:1.7 + nomic embed (ofcourse with a swift script that picks up the audio buffer from microphone) and it works just fine. Rarely i create next steps / sop from the transcript - i use gemini 2.5 and export it as pdf. I’ll give Hyprnote a try soon. I hope, since it’s opensource, you are thinking about exposing api / hooks for downstream tasks.

yujonglee 1y ago
What kind of API/Hooks you expect us to expose? We are down to do that.
- sjayasinghe 1y ago
  The ability to receive live transcripts from a webhook, including speaker diarization metadata would be super useful.
  - yujonglee 1y ago
    webhook to the localhost server, right?
- headcanon 1y ago
  registering an MCP server and calling an MCP tool upon transcript completion (and/or summary completion) would help (check out actionsperminute.io for the vision there). Calendar integration would be nice to link transcripts to discrete meetings.
  - yujonglee 1y ago
    That makes sense. Please add more details here: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/issues/1203 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/issues/1203 For calendar, we have native Apple Calendar integration in MacOS.

marcofiset 1y ago

The only issue I have with those tools, and I have not seen a single one even acknowledge this, is that it becomes completely useless when holding meetings in a hybrid fashion where some people are remote and others are in the office with a shared mic. Almost all of our meetings are hybrid in this way, and it's a real pain having almost half of the meeting be identified as a single individual talking because the mic is hooked up to their machine. It's a total dealbreaker for us, and we won't use such tools until that problem is solved.

nashashmi 1y ago
you might need an AI for in-person meeting first. Such tools are available to doctors who see patients. The note taking is great but I think it is skewed towards one-person summary where the name of the patient remains unknown. I wonder if the same tool can take notes if two patients are in the room and distinguish between each one. The second tool is likely hardware limitation. A multi-cam-mic with beam forming capability to deconstruct overlapping sounds.
- johntopia 1y ago
  hyprnote can be used for in-person meetings as well! we have doctors like ophthalmologists or psychiatrists using it right now. and yes - definitely going to be working on speaker identification as it crucial.
dkdcio 1y ago
I think if you put N-1 mics in the room (where N is the number of people) you could easily identify all individuals...
yujonglee 1y ago
It can be solved with speaker segmentation/embedding models, although it is not perfect. One thing we do with Hyprnote is that we have a Descript-like transcript editor that allows you to easily edit/assign speakers. Once we integrate a speaker diarization model with that, I think we'll be in good shape. If you are interested, you can join our Discord and follow updates. :) https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord

ls-a 1y ago

Looks great. From my experience Tauri team has no clue what mobile is and they're not interested in fixing mobile issues. I can already tell the mobile version will be a disappointment.

yujonglee 1y ago
We tried Tauri mobile (few months ago) and had the same disappointment. We will use RN or Dioxus(to share Rust code) for the mobile version. So it will be cool :)
- ls-a 1y ago
  I'm glad you figured that out early on. Sounds like mobile is going to be great indeed
- toisanji 1y ago
  is this a known pattern, I did a basic tauri app, but not sure what to do with mobile yet...
  - johntopia 1y ago
    from our experience, we tried using stackflow on the frontend but encountered problems with responsive keyboard layouts. thought it was stackflow's problem but soon realized that it just wasn't implemented in tauri yet. ref: https://github.com/daangn/stackflow https://github.com/daangn/stackflow

nashashmi 1y ago

I was talking about this a week ago. One person wanted to make a pdf tutorial of how to use a software. I asked him to record himself in teams and share his screen and have AI take notes. It will create a fabulous summary with snapshots of everything he is going over.

b0dhimind 1y ago

Look forward to testing the Windows version. Hope it has ability to also upload recordings, etc. Meetily is nice but setup feels too convoluted, with a backend and frontend being required to separately install...

johntopia 1y ago
will push harder! hop into our discord(https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord) to get the latest updates :) you can sign up to the waitlist on our website as well.

woadwarrior01 1y ago

Congrats on the launch. Is there a reason why the app isn't sandboxed?

yujonglee 1y ago
What kind of sandboxing you expect? keen to learn more about it since we care about security too. (one reason why we use Tauri over Electron)
- woadwarrior01 1y ago
  Just the default macOS sandboxing entitlement[1], which is mandatory for all apps on the Mac App Store, and optional for notarized apps. [1]: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/configuring-the-macos-app-sandbox https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/configuring-...
  - yujonglee 1y ago
    thank you for letting me know! will look into this

p2hari 1y ago

I just downloaded on mac M4 pro mini. I installed the apple silicon version and try to launch it and it fails. No error message or anything. Just the icon keep bouncing on the dock. I assumed it needs some privacy and screen recording and audio permissions and explicitly gave them, however still just jumps on the dock and the app does not open. (OS, mac sequoia 15.5)

johntopia 1y ago
working on trying to identify the problem! could you come over to our discord where we could better support you? https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord
yujonglee 1y ago
That is very strange. Can you launch it from the command line and share what you got? /Applications/Hyprnote.app/Contents/MacOS/Hyprnote
yujonglee 1y ago
Seems like https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/d0cb0122556da5f517d8232103233aa0c7150932/crates/audio/src/lib.rs#L77 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/d0cb0122556da5f517... this is invalid on Mac mini. Should be fixed today.

kocial 1y ago

Nicely done, I or someone can push the translation option too. Well done.

johntopia 1y ago
what language do you have in mind? would love to know!

turnsout 1y ago

Congrats! I'm currently a Granola user, and wanted to build this myself a while back. But I probably wouldn't have gone as far as fine-tuning a small model for meeting summarization. Can't wait to try it out!

yujonglee 1y ago
Super! let us know how it goes! (we have discord channel too)
- turnsout 1y ago
  Installation and onboarding was nice & smooth! A few random bits of realtime feedback: You have an icon with the Finder face labeled "Open Finder view." I would expect this to open the app's data folder in the macOS Finder. Instead, it opens an accessory window with some helpful views such as calendar view. I'd encourage you to find another name for that window, because it's too confusing to call it "Finder" (especially with the icon). I'd also add a menu item for Settings (and Command-comma shortcut) in the Application menu. You also need a dark mode at some point. Finally, I'm not sure where note files end up. Seeing that there's an Obsidian integration, I would love an option to save notes in Markdown format into a folder of my choice. I'm an iA Writer user, and would love to have meeting notes go directly into my existing notes folder. I'll let you know how the actual functionality is working for me after my next few meetings!
  - johntopia 1y ago
    haha we couldn't find a better icon for the "Finder" view so we just went with the classic one. but i guess it's confusing - noted. we do have settings shortcut already! be sure to test it out :) dark mode - noted as well. we save our notes in db.sqlite that can be found in: ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.hyprnote.stable this decision was made because we have three documents - raw note, enhanced note, and transcript - assigned to a meeting note. would love to create an iA integration for you - or just a simple way to export MD for the time being join our discord for more updates! https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord

teiferer 1y ago

Nice! Would be great if you could include in your launch message how you plan to monetize this. Everybody likes open source software and local-first is excellent too, but if you mention YC too then everybody also knows that there is no free lunch, so what's coming down the line would be good to know before deciding whether to give it a shot or just move on.

yujonglee 1y ago
For individuals: We have a Pro license implemented in our app. Some non-essential features like custom templates or multi-turn chat are gated behind a paid license. (A custom STT model will also be included soon.) There's still no sign-up required. We use keygen.sh to generate offline-verifiable license keys. Currently, it's priced at $179/year. For business: If they want to self-host some kind of admin server with integrations, access control, and SSO, we plan to sell a business license.
- teiferer 1y ago
  Does that mean the admin server is not open source?
  - yujonglee 1y ago
    no. it is open source. https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/apps/admin https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/apps/admin
- thedevilslawyer 1y ago
  Another sso.tax candidate. Let's actively not support software that chooses anti-security.
  - johntopia 1y ago
    totally fair concern. we’re actually on the same side when it comes to promoting good security practices like SSO. the reason we’re gating the admin server under a business license is less about profiting off sso and more about drawing a line between individual and organizational use. it includes a bunch of enterprise-specific features (sso, access control, integrations, ...) that typically require more support and maintenance. that said, the core app is fully open-source and always will be - so individuals and teams who don’t need the admin layer can still use it freely and privately, without compromising security. we’ll keep listening and evolving the model - after all, we're still very early and flexible. appreciate the pushback. (edit: added some more words to reinforce our flexibility)

rushingcreek 1y ago

Congrats on the launch! I'm very bullish on how powerful <10B-param models are becoming, so the on-device angle is cool (and great for your bottom line too, as it's cheaper for you to run). Something that I think is interesting about AI note taking products is focus. How does it choose what's important vs what isn't? The better it is at distinguishing the signal from the noise, the more powerful it is. I wonder if there is an in-context learning angle here where you can update the model weights (either directly or via LoRA) as you get to know the user better. And, of course, everything stays private and on-device.

yujonglee 1y ago
> How does it choose what's important vs what isn't? The idea of Hyprnote is that you write chicken-scratch-raw note during the meeting(what you think is important), and AI enhance based on it. On-device learning is interesting too. For example, Gboard: https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.18465 https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.18465 And yes - we are open to this too

manveerc 1y ago

Congratulations! Is there a mobile version as well, especially for Android?

johntopia 1y ago
have it planned for the 4th quarter!
- manveerc 1y ago
  Awesome, will look forward to it!
  - johntopia 1y ago
    it would be awesome if you could come to our discord where we can keep you posted :)

thephotonsphere 1y ago

Looks promising, but "Linux maybe"? Signing off.

johntopia 1y ago
it was a joke! we are strongly considering to get it done after windows(shipping in aug)
johntopia 1y ago
updated readme :) >> Linux (of course)

tomr75 1y ago

why use whisper over parakeet? how will you monetise?

yujonglee 1y ago
Whisper is more lightweight and smaller. We will support Parakeet in the near future too. Monetization: For individuals: We have a Pro license implemented in our app. Some non-essential features like custom templates or multi-turn chat are gated behind a paid license. (A custom STT model will also be included soon.) There's still no sign-up required. We use keygen.sh to generate offline-verifiable license keys. Currently, it's priced at $179/year. For business: If they want to self-host some kind of admin server with integrations, access control, and SSO, we plan to sell a business license.

pokechamp 1y ago

another free tier (but not opensource) recording tool Ive been using is MacWhisper. Does this and more all locally too. Will try hyprnote out because its neat to do the transcription in real time and its note taking purposes https://goodsnooze.gumroad.com/l/macwhisper https://goodsnooze.gumroad.com/l/macwhisper

yujonglee 1y ago
we will support even faster realtime transcription in near future. (within few weeks)
- satvikpendem 1y ago
  What model? All the realtime transcription services I've seen are Whisper wrappers or custom closed source ones.
  - yujonglee 1y ago
    It's custom model. (whisper variant)
    - satvikpendem 1y ago
      Makes sense. How well do you expect Hyprnote to work on mobile? I found that phones in general are still pretty weak at AI inference on-device still.
      - yujonglee 1y ago
        I think it will work pretty well considering how rapid it moves. (See gemma3n, Cactus etc)

kpen11 1y ago

This is really cool! I've been using Obsidian more and more as a second brain and getting data in has consistently been the point of failure, so I've been wanting something just like this. Specifically something that runs locally and offline. Is the future goal of Hyprnote specifically meeting notes and leaning into features around meeting notes, or more general note taking and recall features?

yujonglee 1y ago
At least for near future, we'll focusing on meeting notepad side of a thing. We actually have "export to Obsidian". I think you can pair Hyprnote nicely with Obsidian. Screenshot: https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/5149b68d-486c-4bd8-82f2-a00833d9f555 https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/5149b68d-486c-4bd... You need this plugin installed in Obsidian first: https://github.com/coddingtonbear/obsidian-local-rest-api https://github.com/coddingtonbear/obsidian-local-rest-api Obsidian export code 1: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/d0cb0122556da5f517d8232103233aa0c7150932/apps/desktop/src/components/toolbar/buttons/share-button.tsx#L348 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/d0cb0122556da5f517... Obsidian export code 2: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/plugins/obsidian https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/tree/main/plugins/obsid...
- kpen11 1y ago
  Thanks for the reply! I will try it out :)

ljosa 1y ago

Why in the world is there _background music_ when I start the app?!

yujonglee 1y ago
We thought it'll be cool :) sorry if that disturbs you.
- ljosa 1y ago
  Glad you're having fun, but it had the "website with autoplay" vibe.
yujonglee 1y ago
It should be played only during onboarding. No music while using the app

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Adrig 1y ago

Since this isn't available yet on Windows, what would be the glue & duct tape alternative? Record audio and dump it in chatGPT? Or do you need to create some kind of automation with n8n / Zapier? I don't have that many meetings but it could be nice to have

yujonglee 1y ago
https://github.com/thewh1teagle/vibe https://github.com/thewh1teagle/vibe Only for speech to text though.
- Adrig 1y ago
  Thanks!
pnw 1y ago
I've been using https://www.quillmeetings.com/ https://www.quillmeetings.com/ on Windows for a few months and it's been great. It processes locally in the same fashion i.e. no cloud requirement. Paid subscription, not open source.
- Adrig 1y ago
  Their free plan might be just what I need. Thanks, I'll have a look
  - johntopia 1y ago
    you might also like shadow if you're interested in just local speech-to-text

syngrog66 1y ago

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btown 1y ago

How are you balancing accuracy vs. time-to-word-on-live-transcript? Is this something you're actively balancing, or can allow an end user to tune? I find myself often using otter.ai - because while it's inferior to Whisper in many ways, and anything but on-device, it's able to show words on the live transcript with minimal delay, rather than waiting for a moment of silence or for a multi-second buffer to fill. That's vital if I'm using my live transcription both to drive async summarization/notes and for my operational use in the same call, to let me speed-read to catch up to a question that was just posed to me while I was multitasking (or doing research for a prior question!) It sometimes boggles me that we consider the latency of keypress-to-character-on-screen to be sacrosanct, but are fine with waiting for a phrase or paragraph or even an entire conversation to be complete before visualizing its transcription. Being able to control this would be incredible.

yujonglee 1y ago
It is more like ai model problem(then app logic. doing it more frequently will require more computation. Things like speculative decoding can help though). Doing it locally is hard, but we expect to ship it very soon. Please join our Discord(https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord) if you are interested to hear from us.

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itsalotoffun 1y ago

I'm always amazed at these relatively tiny projects that "launch" with a "customers" list that reads like they've spent 10 years doing hard outbound enterprise sales: Google, Intel, Apple, Amazon, Deloitte, IBM, Ford, Meta, Uber, Tencent, etc.

johntopia 1y ago
have to admit that we did some logo plays. but our users are really all over the place and just wanted to show it off! i am not sure how it looked but that's why we didn't use terms like "teams" or "customers" to be honest while showing some validation.
- Lionga 1y ago
  "Logo play" is such a YCombinator word for Lie.
  - yaseer 1y ago
    It says "Our users are everywhere" and shows some logos for the companies these users are from. If the users are from those companies, this is not lying. If they added logos for companies their users are not from, it would be lying. Adding a logo to your webpage has started to follow different patterns for the stage of the company. Early stage companies show things like "people at X, Y, Z use our product!" (showing logos without permission), whilst later stage ones tend to show logos after asking for permission, and with more formal case studies. They may not have asked for permission to show these logos, but that's not the same thing as lying.
    - weego 1y ago
      There's a lot of heavy lifting in the idea that someone who tried it / used it of their own volition that happens to work for, say Google, is the same as indicating that your product is "used by Google". It's a lie of accuracy, but still a lie.

anyg 1y ago

This is perfect timing! I just cancelled my fireflies.ai subscription yesterday because it just felt unnecessary. I prefer using less platforms and more tools, especially those that can work under the surface.

johntopia 1y ago
happy to support you! would love to hear your feedback. we have a discord up and running, fyi.
- anyg 1y ago
  i will give it a spin this week and share feedback :)

crashabr 1y ago

Do you intend to reach feature parity with something like MacWhisper? I'd love to switch to something open source, but automated meeting detection, push to transcribe (with custom rewrite actions) are two features I've learned to love, beside basic transcript. I also enjoy the automatic transcription from an audio, video or a even a YouTube link. But because MacWhisper does not store transcripts or do much with them (other than giving you export options), there are some missed opportunities: I'd love to be able to add project tags to transcripts, so that any new transcript is summarized with the context of all previous transcript summaries that share the same tag. Thinking about it maybe I should build a Logseq extension to do that myself as I store all my meeting summaries there anyway. Speaker detection is not great in MacWhisper (at least in my context where I work mostly with non native English speakers), so that would be a good differentiation too.

johntopia 1y ago
definitely planning to catch up to other tools - we ship FAST! automated meeting detection - working on this. push to transcribe - want to understand more about this. (could we talk more over at our discord? https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord) if you're using logseq, we'd love to build an integration for you. finally, speaker identification is a big challenge for us too. so many things to do - so exciting!
- dexterdog 1y ago
  > finally, speaker identification is a big challenge for us too. But your home page makes it looks like you already have it. I just tried it in a 30-minute meeting with 20 people and it put the entire conversation under a single speaker, in a single paragraph.
  - yujonglee 1y ago
    I acknowledge that it's outdated. When we were writing the landing page, we thought we could ship the first version of speaker diarization/identification within a few days. However, due to various challenges and priority changes, we haven't been able to do so yet. We'll update the landing page soon.

Zardoz84 1y ago

I would like to try this on Linux

johntopia 1y ago
we move the status from "maybe" to "of course". we are definitely interested as well :)

joos3 1y ago

Let's go! Trying it out, appreciate you building this as the hosted/online alternatives (Granola, Notion recorder, ChatGPT recorder etc) don't really make sense if you can record locally.

johntopia 1y ago
hope you give us some feedback that we can push further on! this is our discord(https://hyprnote.com/discord https://hyprnote.com/discord) if you're interested

danneezhao 1y ago

How to deal with the AI meeting recording function that comes with conference software？

johntopia 1y ago
hyprnote listens to both sounds coming out(system audio output) and going in(microphone input) so it will work perfectly fine with virtual meetings.

kriro 1y ago

Curious what made you decide to start with the macOS version. Some insight that most potential customers are on Macs or simply "we use Macs, dogfood time"? I'd always target Windows first for these tools. Looks cool, I'll wait for the Linux version and try it. Integration of automatic translations could be an interesting business plan value-add. Branching out into CRM things also makes sense to me. Good luck, keep shipping.

yujonglee 1y ago
Agreed. We are working on Windows too. For macOS, it is dogfooding, and also lots of AI models are Mac optimized + overall Mac device more powerful than windows, so suited to on-device thing.

hidelooktropic 1y ago

Unfortunately the GPL license makes it dead in the water for using something like this at work :(

mentalgear 1y ago
Why? You can use it, only if you want to extend the tool as part of your (paid) work, you are meant to contribute the code changes back. But none of it should prevent someone from just using it (GPL does not mean any usage data is being made "public").
johntopia 1y ago
what are the licenses allowed for your company? would love to learn more.

mentalgear 1y ago

Looks great & kudos for making it local-first & open-source, much appreciated! From a business perspective, and as someone looking also into the open-source model to launch tools, I'd be interested though how you expect revenue to be generated? Is it solely relying on the audience segment that doesn't know how to hook up the API manually to use the open-source version? How do you calculate this, since pushing it via open-source/github you would think that most people exposed to it are technical enough to just run it from source.

yujonglee 1y ago
I mentioned about the monetization plan in other threads! (search with 'license'). Hope that make sense

polyaniline 1y ago

I just tried to build on Linux and it keeps panicking because it requires dozen(s) of API keys. I was not expecting that from local first software.

hahajk 1y ago
I'm also interested in learning about why the API keys are required to build.
- yujonglee 1y ago
  There are only 2 api keys that is required to build (POSTHOG, SENTRY), and also not required to build in dev, only in release build. I made it required to prevent accidentally ship app without any analytics/error tracking. (analytics can be opted out) For ex, https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/327ef376c1091d093c73181325513811a8b4ca82/apps/desktop/src-tauri/src/lib.rs#L30-L40 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/blob/327ef376c1091d093c... EDIT: Prod -> release
  - vanschelven 1y ago
    You might want to reconsider ”no data ever leaves your machine" from the post :) Given your target market, have you considered looking at Bugsink?[0] sentry compatible. still not local, but at least you won't have to additionally ask your customers to trust sentry/posthog. Disclosure: that's me [0] https://www.bugsink.com/ https://www.bugsink.com/
    - yujonglee 1y ago
      Bugsink looks interesting. Will take a look.
yujonglee 1y ago
That is not actually required. You can even set empty key for that. Also Linux issue pointer: https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/issues/67#issuecomment-3135811598 https://github.com/fastrepl/hyprnote/issues/67#issuecomment-...

AlexErrant 1y ago

I'm building a voice-controlled app, so it requires transcription. The problem is that the app talks back, so some amount of AEC is needed. It looks like your "generic" AEC is ML powered, but your planned platform specific AEC may use non-ML tech (i.e. looks like you're considering Windows/Mac specific APIs). Have you had a bad experience with AI powered AEC?

yujonglee 1y ago
> Have you had a bad experience with AI powered AEC? no. actually it is pretty good :)
- AlexErrant 1y ago
  Forgive my probing, but why consider Windows/Mac specific APIs then?

ljosa 1y ago

I just tried this for a standup meeting, and the inability to tell who said what is a show stopper. You'll need to add speaker diarization for this to be useful for more than 1:1s.

johntopia 1y ago
agreed - we understand that speaker identification is crucial when it comes to extracting action items and we're actively working on this!

believ3 1y ago

Any plans to integrate with native Apple Notes app?

yujonglee 1y ago
what kind of integration you expect? export?

eawgewag 1y ago

I honestly don't care that much if Granola uploads my notes to some external service. Work conversations are not private anyways. HOWEVER, I was extremely disturbed to find out that Granola was automatically making each of my notes folders public to the entire organization. Including 1:1s, you guessed it. Yeah, really shook my trust in this product by a lot.

johntopia 1y ago
hyprnote stores and processes data entirely on-device — but you can also bring your own model for better quality and have controllability.

shepardrtc 1y ago

How much data is being sent to Sentry?

yujonglee 1y ago
We don't do any manual call to Sentry at this point. Just standard report when something panics

Myrmornis 1y ago

This looks exactly like something that I've been saying to myself that I want! Installed, and already used to transcribe two meetings. At the moment I think that I'm going to carry on using this. Keep going, it looks great!

johntopia 1y ago
awesome! hope we can meet you in our discord :)

jihomie 1y ago

Hello, I am a manager at a tech firm. Came across your product, and feeling this could be a thing I was looking for these days - recently got banned of some notetakers. Impressive demo video btw! First of all I wanna try this on my personal device. How can I implement your product in my devices? I also want to discuss some points (on-device, self-hosting, open-source, etc.) to persuade our compliance team, as well

johntopia 1y ago
would love to support you! you can just download it from our website if you're using a mac.
- jihomie 1y ago
  Thanks for the prompt response. How about the Window(more of native Window OS than VM or WSL) case? What's your plan for Window version launch and support?
  - johntopia 1y ago
    windows will be launched in august! is your org mostly using windows? or is it just you?
    - jihomie 1y ago
      I use windows, but colleagues are mostly using mac - around 30 to 70?
    - johntopia 1y ago
      could you send me an email? it's john@fastrepl.com - let's talk more!

whitefang 1y ago

I started building something like this for myself and though it would be useful. I have a decent mac only working working but what you have built is great. This one is completely open source and local, no api calls required at all. Quality can better with newer models which has to be worked on. https://github.com/acorn-globus/waveflow https://github.com/acorn-globus/waveflow

cat-whisperer 1y ago

Dude, you should def checkout parcl.cloud

tito 1y ago

Hey, from the demo video, I thought it was entering the answers to your pre-entered questions based on the transcript, but it looks like you're just typing in the answers. Is that right?

jpencausse 1y ago

Question : In a nutshell you ask an LLM to summarize the transcript and input some notes to help frame the results that's all ? It could be done with ChatGPT + Notepad ? Yes it could be fully local, but to do that you need a serious computer and a way to distribute Whisper (on Windows) FYI I tried something close, but comparing Plaud and Whisper (on Windows) Plaud wins far ahead.