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How can it be apartheid state with 1/5th of its population being non-Jewish and having strong anti-discrimination laws? They don't count people living in Gaza a

How can it be apartheid state with 1/5th of its population being non-Jewish and having strong anti-discrimination laws? They don't count people living in Gaza and West-Bank who want and/or try to kill them as their own and why would they? What "being apartheid state" even means?

breppp 1y ago
if it can be an occupation with no troops on the ground, a genocide with no meaningful way to destroy a people, colonialism by the original inhabitants and not motivated by capitalism, it surely could be apartheid without racism and with equal rights words have no meaning, only emotion
0xbadcafebee 1y ago
Israeli apartheid is a system of institutionalized segregation and discrimination in the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories and to a lesser extent in Israel proper.[a] ("Israel proper" refers to the borders of Israel as recognized by the majority of the international community, which excludes East Jerusalem, the West Bank, the Golan Heights, and the Gaza Strip.) This system is characterized by near-total physical separation between the Palestinian and the Israeli settler population of the West Bank, as well as the judicial separation that governs both communities, which discriminates against the Palestinians in a wide range of ways. Israel also discriminates against Palestinian refugees in the diaspora and against its own Palestinian citizens.[2][3][4][5][6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_apartheid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_apartheid
- scotty79 1y ago
  I see. So people who call it apartheid basically believe that places like Gaza are parts of Israel despite Israel having no administrative power there nor effective police presence. Let's skip those places for a moment. What are the signs of apartheid in Israel proper? I don't have access to the sources listed. Just one or two things off the top of your head would be a lot for me.
  - achierius 1y ago
    No, because of the West Bank, where Israel DOES have control.
    - scotty79 1y ago
      Through illegal military occupation of a foreign territory. Was WWII Germnau also an apartheid state because of their occupation of Poland and other territories?

breppp 1y ago

if it can be an occupation with no troops on the ground, a genocide with no meaningful way to destroy a people, colonialism by the original inhabitants and not motivated by capitalism, it surely could be apartheid without racism and with equal rights words have no meaning, only emotion

0xbadcafebee 1y ago

Israeli apartheid is a system of institutionalized segregation and discrimination in the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories and to a lesser extent in Israel proper.[a] ("Israel proper" refers to the borders of Israel as recognized by the majority of the international community, which excludes East Jerusalem, the West Bank, the Golan Heights, and the Gaza Strip.) This system is characterized by near-total physical separation between the Palestinian and the Israeli settler population of the West Bank, as well as the judicial separation that governs both communities, which discriminates against the Palestinians in a wide range of ways. Israel also discriminates against Palestinian refugees in the diaspora and against its own Palestinian citizens.[2][3][4][5][6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_apartheid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_apartheid

scotty79 1y ago
I see. So people who call it apartheid basically believe that places like Gaza are parts of Israel despite Israel having no administrative power there nor effective police presence. Let's skip those places for a moment. What are the signs of apartheid in Israel proper? I don't have access to the sources listed. Just one or two things off the top of your head would be a lot for me.
- achierius 1y ago
  No, because of the West Bank, where Israel DOES have control.
  - scotty79 1y ago
    Through illegal military occupation of a foreign territory. Was WWII Germnau also an apartheid state because of their occupation of Poland and other territories?