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Florida’s attorney general targets a restaurant over an LGBTQ Pride event

84 points by voxadam 1y ago

Original AP report: https://apnews.com/article/florida-drag-show-law-vero-beach-uthmeier-7793dbe3ffd356dda4e678940463922c https://apnews.com/article/florida-drag-show-law-vero-beach-...

WarOnPrivacy 1y ago
I'm in FL and now want to go to a drag show.
- rastignack 1y ago
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  - ripped_britches 1y ago
    There’s a difference between inappropriate and illegal. Inappropriate is subjective. Illegal is objective. You are allowed to not take your own kids to whatever.
    - pixxel 1y ago
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  - glutamate 1y ago
    I guess you don't want kids to go to the beach either, where the standard attire is even more "revealing" ?
  - queenkjuul 1y ago
    Lmao you actually believe this shit? A gay man in a tank top is "sexualized attire" according to Ron Desantus.
  - actuallyalys 1y ago
    Many conservatives who target drag shows believe drag and cross dressing are inherently sexual or inappropriate for children so I think skepticism is warranted. The TCPalm spoke to some attendees [0] who said the bar does ensure minors are not present for the adult-only shows, which take place later in the evening. [0]: https://archive.ph/g4nIq https://archive.ph/g4nIq
    - RajT88 1y ago
      This is a nationwide phenomena. Many articles have been written on it. My own small town on the edge of the Chicago suburbs has a group of zealots that protest drag shows all over the suburban area (always small towns on the edge of the burbs, never major towns). All of these arguments listed in this thread and articles about the right wing losing their shit about drag shows have been trotted out by these folks at the local city council meetings. This is not just silly, these folks are dangerous. Nobody seems to appreciate it yet. But when these protests and city council meeting nuisances started, so did vandalism of places hosting these events. Then came the bomb threats to all the local libraries which hosted drag story hour. You can probably imagine how this may escalate.
    - actuallyalys 1y ago
      It's too late to edit my comment, but to clarify, I meant skepticism of these comments by the attorney general, not of the restaurant that hosted the show.
  - humphreygocart 1y ago
    If your concern is truly with the children and protecting them from sexual abuse then you should focus your attention on people with conservative viewpoints. Here is a growing list of USA Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers: https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook Or simply search for "still not a drag queen". https://www.google.com/search?q=site:lemmy.world+still+not+a+drag+queen https://www.google.com/search?q=site:lemmy.world+still+not+a... Google's AI Overview: > site:lemmy.world still not a drag queen The phrase "Still not a drag queen" appears frequently on the Lemmy.world platform. This phrase is often used as a comment on posts discussing arrests, scandals, or accusations, particularly involving individuals who are not drag queens or transgender people. Some users might be employing this phrase to highlight the perceived hypocrisy of focusing on drag queens or transgender individuals in relation to such incidents, while ignoring those in more traditionally respected positions. The phrase seems to be a reaction to the public discourse surrounding drag and transgender people, where they are often wrongly associated with such incidents in media narratives or political rhetoric.
    - rastignack 1y ago
      One does not justify a wrong by another wrong. It’s a classic sophism. I do not live in the US but did see some truly shocking and illegal behaviors at gay prides and drag themed events. So I’m just waiting to get more information. So my point is to trust the law. I don’t see how controversial it can be.
- ecocentrik 1y ago
  FL has had excellent drag shows for 30-40 years and nobody gave a shit until a few party poopers pulled their heads out of their asses and decided to do some event searches. It's non-explicit adult entertainment usually for a mixed crowd, all laughing their asses off and cheering on the entertainment. Florida has more than enough titty bars, prostitutes and international sex trafficking rings to keep a Southern Baptist pastor happy but somehow men dressed like women singing popular music is too crazy.
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    >decided to do some event searches And found what?
    - Rebelgecko 1y ago
      As per the article it sounds like they found performers where risque (but not obscene) outfits
      - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
        Sounds like grey area. Maybe best to keep kids away?
        ecocentrik 1y ago
        It's adult entertainment but there's no nudity or explicit imagery. Some parents feel comfortable taking their kids, other's don't in the same way that some parents feel comfortable taking their kids to concerts or R rated movies.
        SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
        Ah right… so… absolutely no reason to take kids to. GOT IT.
        1y ago
fjfaase 1y ago
Combine this with the recent executive order to institutionize people with mental issues. Do not forget that the first people to be locked up in concentration camps in nazi Germany included communists, socialists, mentaly ill, homeless, and criminals.
- burnt-resistor 1y ago
  First they came for the transgender juvenile athletes And I did not speak out Because I was not a transgender juvenile athlete (and there are probably only 100 in the whole country) - Then they came for the unofficial migrants (the paperwork is a civil federal matter) And I did not speak out Because I was not an unofficial migrant - Then they came for the unhoused Americans And I did not speak out Because I was not a currently unhoused American, a person camping on BLM land, or a person camping in their back yard for more than 7 days per year where it is now illegal - Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
  - shepherdjerred 1y ago
    * Transgender women juvenile athletes not being able to play with cisgender women (this issue doesn't even have a consensus one way or the other; the opinion roughly a 50/50 split afaik) * Immigrants breaking established laws (that you may or may not agree with, again a 50/50 split) * I have no idea what you're talking about the last one, feel free to link some articles for me to read Are you really comparing the above to the treatment of minorities during the Halocaust, e.g. round up and murdered en masse? Does what's happening today even look remotely close to some of the evil things the US has done in the past, e.g. Japenese internment, displacement of Native Americans, slavery, etc. I don't agree with what's going on, and I do see potential for it to become worse, but comparing it to actual crimes against humanity seems like a stretch
    - fallinghawks 1y ago
      https://boingboing.net/2025/07/29/american-fascism-ice-arrests-u-s-citizen-then-tells-him-to-shave-your-beard.html https://boingboing.net/2025/07/29/american-fascism-ice-arres...
aaron695 1y ago
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84 points by voxadam 1y ago

Original AP report: https://apnews.com/article/florida-drag-show-law-vero-beach-uthmeier-7793dbe3ffd356dda4e678940463922c https://apnews.com/article/florida-drag-show-law-vero-beach-...

WarOnPrivacy 1y ago

I'm in FL and now want to go to a drag show.

rastignack 1y ago
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- ripped_britches 1y ago
  There’s a difference between inappropriate and illegal. Inappropriate is subjective. Illegal is objective. You are allowed to not take your own kids to whatever.
  - pixxel 1y ago
    [dead]
- glutamate 1y ago
  I guess you don't want kids to go to the beach either, where the standard attire is even more "revealing" ?
- queenkjuul 1y ago
  Lmao you actually believe this shit? A gay man in a tank top is "sexualized attire" according to Ron Desantus.
- actuallyalys 1y ago
  Many conservatives who target drag shows believe drag and cross dressing are inherently sexual or inappropriate for children so I think skepticism is warranted. The TCPalm spoke to some attendees [0] who said the bar does ensure minors are not present for the adult-only shows, which take place later in the evening. [0]: https://archive.ph/g4nIq https://archive.ph/g4nIq
  - RajT88 1y ago
    This is a nationwide phenomena. Many articles have been written on it. My own small town on the edge of the Chicago suburbs has a group of zealots that protest drag shows all over the suburban area (always small towns on the edge of the burbs, never major towns). All of these arguments listed in this thread and articles about the right wing losing their shit about drag shows have been trotted out by these folks at the local city council meetings. This is not just silly, these folks are dangerous. Nobody seems to appreciate it yet. But when these protests and city council meeting nuisances started, so did vandalism of places hosting these events. Then came the bomb threats to all the local libraries which hosted drag story hour. You can probably imagine how this may escalate.
  - actuallyalys 1y ago
    It's too late to edit my comment, but to clarify, I meant skepticism of these comments by the attorney general, not of the restaurant that hosted the show.
- humphreygocart 1y ago
  If your concern is truly with the children and protecting them from sexual abuse then you should focus your attention on people with conservative viewpoints. Here is a growing list of USA Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers: https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook Or simply search for "still not a drag queen". https://www.google.com/search?q=site:lemmy.world+still+not+a+drag+queen https://www.google.com/search?q=site:lemmy.world+still+not+a... Google's AI Overview: > site:lemmy.world still not a drag queen The phrase "Still not a drag queen" appears frequently on the Lemmy.world platform. This phrase is often used as a comment on posts discussing arrests, scandals, or accusations, particularly involving individuals who are not drag queens or transgender people. Some users might be employing this phrase to highlight the perceived hypocrisy of focusing on drag queens or transgender individuals in relation to such incidents, while ignoring those in more traditionally respected positions. The phrase seems to be a reaction to the public discourse surrounding drag and transgender people, where they are often wrongly associated with such incidents in media narratives or political rhetoric.
  - rastignack 1y ago
    One does not justify a wrong by another wrong. It’s a classic sophism. I do not live in the US but did see some truly shocking and illegal behaviors at gay prides and drag themed events. So I’m just waiting to get more information. So my point is to trust the law. I don’t see how controversial it can be.
ecocentrik 1y ago
FL has had excellent drag shows for 30-40 years and nobody gave a shit until a few party poopers pulled their heads out of their asses and decided to do some event searches. It's non-explicit adult entertainment usually for a mixed crowd, all laughing their asses off and cheering on the entertainment. Florida has more than enough titty bars, prostitutes and international sex trafficking rings to keep a Southern Baptist pastor happy but somehow men dressed like women singing popular music is too crazy.
- SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
  >decided to do some event searches And found what?
  - Rebelgecko 1y ago
    As per the article it sounds like they found performers where risque (but not obscene) outfits
    - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
      Sounds like grey area. Maybe best to keep kids away?
      - ecocentrik 1y ago
        It's adult entertainment but there's no nudity or explicit imagery. Some parents feel comfortable taking their kids, other's don't in the same way that some parents feel comfortable taking their kids to concerts or R rated movies.
        SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
        Ah right… so… absolutely no reason to take kids to. GOT IT.
        1y ago

fjfaase 1y ago

Combine this with the recent executive order to institutionize people with mental issues. Do not forget that the first people to be locked up in concentration camps in nazi Germany included communists, socialists, mentaly ill, homeless, and criminals.

burnt-resistor 1y ago
First they came for the transgender juvenile athletes And I did not speak out Because I was not a transgender juvenile athlete (and there are probably only 100 in the whole country) - Then they came for the unofficial migrants (the paperwork is a civil federal matter) And I did not speak out Because I was not an unofficial migrant - Then they came for the unhoused Americans And I did not speak out Because I was not a currently unhoused American, a person camping on BLM land, or a person camping in their back yard for more than 7 days per year where it is now illegal - Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
- shepherdjerred 1y ago
  * Transgender women juvenile athletes not being able to play with cisgender women (this issue doesn't even have a consensus one way or the other; the opinion roughly a 50/50 split afaik) * Immigrants breaking established laws (that you may or may not agree with, again a 50/50 split) * I have no idea what you're talking about the last one, feel free to link some articles for me to read Are you really comparing the above to the treatment of minorities during the Halocaust, e.g. round up and murdered en masse? Does what's happening today even look remotely close to some of the evil things the US has done in the past, e.g. Japenese internment, displacement of Native Americans, slavery, etc. I don't agree with what's going on, and I do see potential for it to become worse, but comparing it to actual crimes against humanity seems like a stretch
  - fallinghawks 1y ago
    https://boingboing.net/2025/07/29/american-fascism-ice-arrests-u-s-citizen-then-tells-him-to-shave-your-beard.html https://boingboing.net/2025/07/29/american-fascism-ice-arres...

aaron695 1y ago

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