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Oh but the population will have to sacrifice - there is no way food supply will not be affected. Florida’s orange production in 1996 was 174 million boxes[0] si

by dh2022 1y ago

Oh but the population will have to sacrifice - there is no way food supply will not be affected. Florida’s orange production in 1996 was 174 million boxes[0] since 2020 it is around 52 million boxes[1]. Beef production is lower because of drought [3]. There are parts of the country which are not insurable because of hurricanes, fires, floods and tornadoes [4]. This is an indicator that anything built will not be around for a long time. So they will sacrifice-they just know it yet. [0] https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Florida/Publications/Citrus/Citrus_Forecast/1996-97/cit1096.pdf https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Florida/Public... [1] https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Florida/Publications/Citrus/Citrus_Forecast/2021-22/cit0722.pdf https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Florida/Public... [3] https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/animal-products/cattle-beef/sector-at-a-glance https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/animal-products/cattle-beef/... [4] https://bankingjournal.aba.com/2025/02/feds-powell-says-some-areas-of-u-s-may-be-uninsurable-in-next-decade/ https://bankingjournal.aba.com/2025/02/feds-powell-says-some...

futureshock 1y ago
You can’t vote the climate out of office. Sure our food supplies may crash, but no one person decided they should crash. No one to blame. No one to punish. This is the political reality. This man made catastrophe will feel sufficiently like an act of god for most people and they will just deal with the reduced carrying capacity of the planet as if it were some divine judgment instead of the tragedy of the commons.
JamesSwift 1y ago
> Florida’s orange production in 1996 was 174 million boxes since 2020 it is around 52 million boxes To be fair, the largest factor in that is citrus greening. The industry sort of threw its hands up and gave up on trying to fight it as far as I can tell.
- WarOnPrivacy 1y ago
  A lot of orange groves were cut down for construction, 1990-2010. I drove to Jax last week and saw some of the (long shuttered) orange-themed tourist shops off of 301/21/100. I had nearly forgotten they existed.
  - JamesSwift 1y ago
    Right, I think its cause and effect though. Once greening took hold a lot of groves saw the writing on the wall and shuttered/sold. Thats partially what happened to an iconic grove by me which operated for decades. Now their highway stand is being paved over to put in another storage facility.

by dh2022 1y ago

futureshock 1y ago

You can’t vote the climate out of office. Sure our food supplies may crash, but no one person decided they should crash. No one to blame. No one to punish. This is the political reality. This man made catastrophe will feel sufficiently like an act of god for most people and they will just deal with the reduced carrying capacity of the planet as if it were some divine judgment instead of the tragedy of the commons.

JamesSwift 1y ago

> Florida’s orange production in 1996 was 174 million boxes since 2020 it is around 52 million boxes To be fair, the largest factor in that is citrus greening. The industry sort of threw its hands up and gave up on trying to fight it as far as I can tell.

WarOnPrivacy 1y ago
A lot of orange groves were cut down for construction, 1990-2010. I drove to Jax last week and saw some of the (long shuttered) orange-themed tourist shops off of 301/21/100. I had nearly forgotten they existed.
- JamesSwift 1y ago
  Right, I think its cause and effect though. Once greening took hold a lot of groves saw the writing on the wall and shuttered/sold. Thats partially what happened to an iconic grove by me which operated for decades. Now their highway stand is being paved over to put in another storage facility.