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This is actually a valid question*, although you probably won't like the answer. One side will concede in a war if there are no gains to be had, and conceding
by ajb 1y ago
This is actually a valid question*, although you probably won't like the answer.
One side will concede in a war if there are no gains to be had, and conceding will stem the losses. So at a minimum, the side that wants a victorious peace has to credibly promise not to kill the women and children of the other side. At the moment, Israel is unable to credibly promise that, and it's difficult to see how in the short term it can generate any such credibility. So external parties such as the US need to form part of the commitment mechanism. Under both Biden and Trump, the US has neglected it's responsibility to do that.
*Apart from implying that civilian Gazans are responsible for the hostages
- tayo42 1y agoWhy? It would be terrible politically for Israel to keep attacking Palestine if Palestine and hamas agreed to peace. All of the ambiguity of right and wrong would be gone.
- lazyasciiart 1y agoBut Israel does that constantly, because they say the peace that Hamas agreed to doesn’t count. And the peace offer that Israel is waiting for is basically every male over 16 handed over for interrogation as Hamas members, with the chances of survival for actual Hamas leaders being about none.
- Jensson 1y agoDo you think USA would agree to peace with Nazi Germany or Japan without being allowed to root out all the Nazis or Japanese extremists? WWII was ended in an extremely brutal way, but it did work and effectively ended the genocidal extremism in both Japan and Germany.
- lazyasciiart 1y agoWow that’s super unrelated to the comment I was responding to, was it in the wrong place by accident?
- sudopluto 1y agoAlmost like starting a war is risky, and that by doing so you should weigh the consequences of you losing that war. Why would Hamas leaders expect to survive this war? Are they so cowardly that they would genocide their people to escape justice? If the people of gaza are going to be sacrificed by the IDF, or sacrificed by Hamas, at what point do they turn on Hamas as the weaker of the two?
- lazyasciiart 1y agoWow that’s super unrelated to the comment I was responding to, was it in the wrong place by accident?
- dismalaf 1y agoIsrael pulled out of Gaza for nearly 20 years... Then October 7th happened. > *Apart from implying that civilian Gazans are responsible for the hostages https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/19/middleeast/gaza-neighborhood-israeli-hostages-intl-cmd https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/19/middleeast/gaza-neighborhood-...
- adhamsalama 1y agoIsrael has been subjugating Palestinians and killing them for over 75 years. They're still killing Palestinians and stealing their lands in the West Bank too.