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Is there something out there (in TypeScript, preferably) that does things in the way that you’re describing?

by wk_end 1y ago

vermilingua 1y ago
Svelte is a lot closer to that latter style, there are a lot of React weirdnesses that just aren’t possible in Svelte (because it’s a compiler, not a framework)
- 5Qn8mNbc2FNCiVV 1y ago
  I'd rather break my hands than use Svelte instead of React again. It comes with so many problems of itself. Summarized in a single sentence though it would be: It's more common than you'd like it to be, that your UI doesn't actually reflect the state of your application.
  - agos 1y ago
    I was considering investing in learning Svelte to avoid some of the React quirkiness, but this is not very promising. Can you share a bit more? Trading off a set of quirky annoying things for an equivalent or worse one would be suboptimal.
    - owebmaster 1y ago
      Svelte promises to be better than React but in the end it is not - and I hate React. React is a world on its own inside the frontend and Svelte did exactly the same, it is just different unnecessary complexity. And they even change everything every couple of years just like React.
  - zapt02 1y ago
    I'm not sure what you're actually trying to say by that. Svelte has fine-grained opt-in reactivity. If you don't declare a variable with $state, it won't be reactive. That's by design and not a problem.
lmm 1y ago
TypeScript isn't powerful enough, but take a look at how the PureScript bindings do it.
worble 1y ago
Not typescript, but elm essentially promises that. Unfortunately it's been pretty much abandoned while barely scratching the surface of javascripts api (and had drama when the community attempted to make their own native code)
hboon 1y ago
I use Vue (and had use React for a while) and Vue is much more intuitive to me.
- ileonichwiesz 1y ago
  In my experience it just abstracts all the same issues behind its own custom syntax - you’ll still eventually run into the classic problem where your entire grid rerenders when you change a single cell, but it’s going to be that much trickier to debug because it’s not just regular Typescript.

Is there something out there (in TypeScript, preferably) that does things in the way that you’re describing?

by wk_end 1y ago

Is there something out there (in TypeScript, preferably) that does things in the way that you’re describing?

Svelte is a lot closer to that latter style, there are a lot of React weirdnesses that just aren’t possible in Svelte (because it’s a compiler, not a framework)

5Qn8mNbc2FNCiVV 1y ago
I'd rather break my hands than use Svelte instead of React again. It comes with so many problems of itself. Summarized in a single sentence though it would be: It's more common than you'd like it to be, that your UI doesn't actually reflect the state of your application.
- agos 1y ago
  I was considering investing in learning Svelte to avoid some of the React quirkiness, but this is not very promising. Can you share a bit more? Trading off a set of quirky annoying things for an equivalent or worse one would be suboptimal.
  - owebmaster 1y ago
    Svelte promises to be better than React but in the end it is not - and I hate React. React is a world on its own inside the frontend and Svelte did exactly the same, it is just different unnecessary complexity. And they even change everything every couple of years just like React.
- zapt02 1y ago
  I'm not sure what you're actually trying to say by that. Svelte has fine-grained opt-in reactivity. If you don't declare a variable with $state, it won't be reactive. That's by design and not a problem.

lmm 1y ago

TypeScript isn't powerful enough, but take a look at how the PureScript bindings do it.

worble 1y ago

Not typescript, but elm essentially promises that. Unfortunately it's been pretty much abandoned while barely scratching the surface of javascripts api (and had drama when the community attempted to make their own native code)

hboon 1y ago

I use Vue (and had use React for a while) and Vue is much more intuitive to me.

ileonichwiesz 1y ago
In my experience it just abstracts all the same issues behind its own custom syntax - you’ll still eventually run into the classic problem where your entire grid rerenders when you change a single cell, but it’s going to be that much trickier to debug because it’s not just regular Typescript.