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No, people just nee to learn to live alongside eachother ffs.

by bamboozled 1y ago

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tbrownaw 1y ago
How does this work when a group wants to move in to an area that's already completely in use by another group?
- SR2Z 1y ago
  It's not completely in-use. The motivation for the entire state of Israel's existence is that the Jewish people need a homeland or else they will keep getting persecuted. That rules out a Muslim-majority state with a lot of Jews in it. Given the demographics of Jewish people outside of Israel, it's hard to disagree with. When you consider the early years of Israel, and how many wars were started to run the Jews out of it, it's even more well-supported. The best hope for a lasting peace was with the Oslo accords. They were torpedoed by the Palestinians themselves, who were unwilling to accept any kind of compromise that maintained a Jewish state. Not saying Israel is innocent, but the idea that so many people seem to have that the region would be happy-go-lucky and peaceful for Jewish people if not for the war is hopelessly naive.
  - mitthrowaway2 1y ago
    Speaking as a Jewish person I feel like our odds of survival are much better in the diaspora. And the way Israel is behaving is not doing us any favours in the long term.
    - Jensson 1y ago
      > Speaking as a Jewish person I feel like our odds of survival are much better in the diaspora You probably wouldn't feel that way 1945.
      - mitthrowaway2 1y ago
        Most of my family died in the Holocaust and the ones who made it escaped with nothing. They would not have made it out but for the generosity and compassion of a handful of people. But despite that I still stand by my statement. Especially in the nuclear age. History does not repeat but it does rhyme. And in 2025, Jews aren't the ones clawing for an exit visa. I'll leave it there because I don't feel the need to argue this point further.
      - Zacharias030 1y ago
        I think it is not 1945 and comparing the people in Gaza with the Nazis is absurd.
- Gormo 1y ago
  Perhaps thinking about "groups" having exclusive control of large regions of territory is itself the core of the problem.
  - Zacharias030 1y ago
    I think we can have that discussion when Israel decides or is being coerced that enough Palestinians have starved to death.
    - bamboozled 1y ago
      Or when Hamas surrenders ? It’s a war?

No, people just nee to learn to live alongside eachother ffs.

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tbrownaw 1y ago

How does this work when a group wants to move in to an area that's already completely in use by another group?

SR2Z 1y ago
It's not completely in-use. The motivation for the entire state of Israel's existence is that the Jewish people need a homeland or else they will keep getting persecuted. That rules out a Muslim-majority state with a lot of Jews in it. Given the demographics of Jewish people outside of Israel, it's hard to disagree with. When you consider the early years of Israel, and how many wars were started to run the Jews out of it, it's even more well-supported. The best hope for a lasting peace was with the Oslo accords. They were torpedoed by the Palestinians themselves, who were unwilling to accept any kind of compromise that maintained a Jewish state. Not saying Israel is innocent, but the idea that so many people seem to have that the region would be happy-go-lucky and peaceful for Jewish people if not for the war is hopelessly naive.
- mitthrowaway2 1y ago
  Speaking as a Jewish person I feel like our odds of survival are much better in the diaspora. And the way Israel is behaving is not doing us any favours in the long term.
  - Jensson 1y ago
    > Speaking as a Jewish person I feel like our odds of survival are much better in the diaspora You probably wouldn't feel that way 1945.
    - mitthrowaway2 1y ago
      Most of my family died in the Holocaust and the ones who made it escaped with nothing. They would not have made it out but for the generosity and compassion of a handful of people. But despite that I still stand by my statement. Especially in the nuclear age. History does not repeat but it does rhyme. And in 2025, Jews aren't the ones clawing for an exit visa. I'll leave it there because I don't feel the need to argue this point further.
    - Zacharias030 1y ago
      I think it is not 1945 and comparing the people in Gaza with the Nazis is absurd.
Gormo 1y ago
Perhaps thinking about "groups" having exclusive control of large regions of territory is itself the core of the problem.
- Zacharias030 1y ago
  I think we can have that discussion when Israel decides or is being coerced that enough Palestinians have starved to death.
  - bamboozled 1y ago
    Or when Hamas surrenders ? It’s a war?