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Israel does not allow international journalists in and it's fairly obvious why.

by diebeforei485 1y ago

thenaturalist 1y ago
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- rany_ 1y ago
  Yes, Israel is the one currently banning international journalists from entering Gaza. Hamas has no reason to.
  - thenaturalist 1y ago
    Yeah, really no reason. Because they really love unbiased coverage. > The journalist told RSF that the threat came from Hamas members who were unhappy with his social media posts. A few days earlier, the reporter — who wishes to remain anonymous — had published a post criticising Hamas, which was facing strong backlash from local protestors exhausted from being subjected to the massacres committed by Israeli forces. > Due to these threats the journalist deleted his posts, fearing for his safety. At least two other journalists have faced threats and physical attacks for covering the protests against Hamas, which lasted several days. “Detention centres and administrative offices in Gaza have been destroyed,” one journalist told RSF. “So now Hamas’ intimidation tactics consist of direct confrontations with journalists, and the journalists have nowhere to go.” https://rsf.org/en/gaza-rsf-condemns-hamas-threats-against-journalists-bombarded-israel https://rsf.org/en/gaza-rsf-condemns-hamas-threats-against-j...
    - rany_ 1y ago
      Sure but your post is completely unrelated. We are talking about international journalists not being allowed into Gaza. Your comment is about a local journalist being intimidated by Hamas members. International journalists are generally allowed to report freely. If there was any intimidation they would be airing it nonstop.
  - alphan0n 1y ago
    Why doesn’t Egypt allow journalists through the Raffah crossing? Or refugees..?
    - rany_ 1y ago
      Because Egypt is under a US-aligned dictatorship at the moment. Most Egyptians are upset at their government about this.
      - thenaturalist 1y ago
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        rany_ 1y ago
        The current dictatorship in Egypt deals with the Muslim Brotherhood in the same way pro-US capitalist dictatorships dealt with communist groups. The Muslim Brotherhood is still very popular in Egypt, and in the last legitimate election won close to 50% of the vote. I don't support them but their views are generally closer to Christian Democracy/socialism than you'd think. Fact is that Egyptians are opposed to this, just like most other people in Arab or Muslim majority countries are. Their government is authoritarian and just does what suits it best, which in this case is to appease the US.
      - wredcoll 1y ago
        It's always remarkable how people like you think egyptians are incompetent and incapable of taking actions on their own without a special western nation controlling them.
        rany_ 1y ago
        Well, that doesn't change the fact that Egypt is currently under a US-aligned dictatorship. I'm not saying it's under US-control, just that the current dictator stands to benefit by being in the good graces of the US...despite his people's demands. Also I don't believe that Egyptians are incompetent and incapable, you're putting words in mouth. It's just easier said than done to remove a dictator from power, especially when the power structure is so entrenched. It took Syria over a decade of civil war to get rid of theirs... We don't live in a Hollywood film. The French Revolution didn't take a month to transition to a republic...
marai2 1y ago
BBC's Jeremy Bowen was on the Jordanian aid-dropping plane yesterday or day before. "He was told by the Jordanians that Israel did not want our crew to film outside the plane's windows while he was onboard".[1] Obviously why - then he'd be able to film the ... not decimation, but total destruction of some of the cities in Gaza that would provide evidence for the genocide. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/clyj4gnzxgno https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/clyj4gnzxgno
- kayodelycaon 1y ago
  The destruction is fully visible in satellite footage. Associated Press has “before and after” comparisons.
  - diebeforei485 1y ago
    Israel lobbied for restrictions on the resolution of satellite footage of the occupied Palestinian territories, so it tends to be a lot more blurred than images of anywhere else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyl–Bingaman_Amendment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyl–Bingaman_Amendment
    - senderista 1y ago
      I had no idea about this appalling law. It deserves to be much better-known.
    - Cyph0n 1y ago
      Unbelievable.. first time hearing about this.
    - mjevans 1y ago
      I'd understand a delay for operational security; it is a war zone. However banned entirely?
      - mousethatroared 1y ago
        Why is it reasonable for operational security? They're not Israeli satellites!
Cyph0n 1y ago
Yes, they learned an important lesson on how to deal with Western media from the 1982 invasion of Lebanon. There's a decent amount of exploration of this topic in the excellent book "Our American Israel".
- vdfs 1y ago
  New lesson is learned about tiktok and live streams
JamesAdir 1y ago
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Israel does not allow international journalists in and it's fairly obvious why.

thenaturalist 1y ago

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rany_ 1y ago
Yes, Israel is the one currently banning international journalists from entering Gaza. Hamas has no reason to.
- thenaturalist 1y ago
  Yeah, really no reason. Because they really love unbiased coverage. > The journalist told RSF that the threat came from Hamas members who were unhappy with his social media posts. A few days earlier, the reporter — who wishes to remain anonymous — had published a post criticising Hamas, which was facing strong backlash from local protestors exhausted from being subjected to the massacres committed by Israeli forces. > Due to these threats the journalist deleted his posts, fearing for his safety. At least two other journalists have faced threats and physical attacks for covering the protests against Hamas, which lasted several days. “Detention centres and administrative offices in Gaza have been destroyed,” one journalist told RSF. “So now Hamas’ intimidation tactics consist of direct confrontations with journalists, and the journalists have nowhere to go.” https://rsf.org/en/gaza-rsf-condemns-hamas-threats-against-journalists-bombarded-israel https://rsf.org/en/gaza-rsf-condemns-hamas-threats-against-j...
  - rany_ 1y ago
    Sure but your post is completely unrelated. We are talking about international journalists not being allowed into Gaza. Your comment is about a local journalist being intimidated by Hamas members. International journalists are generally allowed to report freely. If there was any intimidation they would be airing it nonstop.
- alphan0n 1y ago
  Why doesn’t Egypt allow journalists through the Raffah crossing? Or refugees..?
  - rany_ 1y ago
    Because Egypt is under a US-aligned dictatorship at the moment. Most Egyptians are upset at their government about this.
    - thenaturalist 1y ago
      [flagged]
      - rany_ 1y ago
        The current dictatorship in Egypt deals with the Muslim Brotherhood in the same way pro-US capitalist dictatorships dealt with communist groups. The Muslim Brotherhood is still very popular in Egypt, and in the last legitimate election won close to 50% of the vote. I don't support them but their views are generally closer to Christian Democracy/socialism than you'd think. Fact is that Egyptians are opposed to this, just like most other people in Arab or Muslim majority countries are. Their government is authoritarian and just does what suits it best, which in this case is to appease the US.
    - wredcoll 1y ago
      It's always remarkable how people like you think egyptians are incompetent and incapable of taking actions on their own without a special western nation controlling them.
      - rany_ 1y ago
        Well, that doesn't change the fact that Egypt is currently under a US-aligned dictatorship. I'm not saying it's under US-control, just that the current dictator stands to benefit by being in the good graces of the US...despite his people's demands. Also I don't believe that Egyptians are incompetent and incapable, you're putting words in mouth. It's just easier said than done to remove a dictator from power, especially when the power structure is so entrenched. It took Syria over a decade of civil war to get rid of theirs... We don't live in a Hollywood film. The French Revolution didn't take a month to transition to a republic...

marai2 1y ago

BBC's Jeremy Bowen was on the Jordanian aid-dropping plane yesterday or day before. "He was told by the Jordanians that Israel did not want our crew to film outside the plane's windows while he was onboard".[1] Obviously why - then he'd be able to film the ... not decimation, but total destruction of some of the cities in Gaza that would provide evidence for the genocide. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/clyj4gnzxgno https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/clyj4gnzxgno

kayodelycaon 1y ago
The destruction is fully visible in satellite footage. Associated Press has “before and after” comparisons.
- diebeforei485 1y ago
  Israel lobbied for restrictions on the resolution of satellite footage of the occupied Palestinian territories, so it tends to be a lot more blurred than images of anywhere else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyl–Bingaman_Amendment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyl–Bingaman_Amendment
  - senderista 1y ago
    I had no idea about this appalling law. It deserves to be much better-known.
  - Cyph0n 1y ago
    Unbelievable.. first time hearing about this.
  - mjevans 1y ago
    I'd understand a delay for operational security; it is a war zone. However banned entirely?
    - mousethatroared 1y ago
      Why is it reasonable for operational security? They're not Israeli satellites!

Cyph0n 1y ago

Yes, they learned an important lesson on how to deal with Western media from the 1982 invasion of Lebanon. There's a decent amount of exploration of this topic in the excellent book "Our American Israel".

vdfs 1y ago
New lesson is learned about tiktok and live streams

JamesAdir 1y ago

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