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"The solution is certainty not x" is not a solution. Saying "it's not x" is easy. If you really believe that Gazans are being starved, then save them by coming
by rendall 1y ago
"The solution is certainty not x" is not a solution. Saying "it's not x" is easy.
If you really believe that Gazans are being starved, then save them by coming up with a great solution for Israel. Let's hear what you think Israel should do.
- Ericson2314 1y agoThat is not how "don't do war crimes" works. It's incumbent upon Israel to find an alternative.
- dmix 1y agoThat would probably require some serious infrastructure to set up secure food distribution points, which I'm assuming isn't easy because the locations have to change as the evacuation areas also constantly changimg. From the video it looks like they only have some berms and small fences so I'd imagine it's a dangerous security situation. Although having way more food/distribution points might help reduce the violent mobs.
- 9dev 1y agoDo you realise how incredibly cynical you sound? We're not discussing the finer details of a logistical challenge here, but the fate of people starving to death. People that by and large are innocent. Also: It'd require infrastructure that did exist before the IDF destroyed it. To feed people that weren't hungry before Israel blocked humanitarian aid. Don't reverse the guilt.
- rendall 1y agoComing up with a solution sounds cynical to you? It's a solution. What do you suggest?
- rendall 1y agoLet's assume for the sake of argument that Israel has decided to starve out Gazans in order to end the war. You have the choice to save them by offering a better solution. What is it? "Not X!" is a copout. Unfortunately for that perspective, finding a good solution means diving in and understanding the conflict from the Israeli perspective.
- ImPostingOnHN 1y agoOccupying powers have a legal responsibility to provide aid to civilians in territories they occupy. They also have a legal responsibility to figure out the logistics. They also cannot commit war crimes. So the solution is for israel to do what they are legally required to do, and stop doing what they are legally proscribed from doing. Everything else (hostage return, feelings of safety, etc) is: 1. Less important, and 2. Equally applicable to both israel and palestine Finding a good solution means diving in and understanding the conflict beyond israel's perspective: There is simply no legal or moral justification for the atrocities we see here. None whatsoever.
- davidf18 1y ago[dead]
- beepbopboopp 1y agoThis is a gross oversimplification. Hamas has used aid drops as attack points and military refueling opportunities. The idea that this conflict has a good guy bad guy and is simple has done more disservice to an outcome than almost anything else.
- ImPostingOnHN 1y ago> This is a gross oversimplification. That is a valid opinion, and I also have an equally valid opinion, that it is a gross undersimplification. Our two valid opinions cancel each other out! :) > Hamas has used aid drops as attack points and military refueling opportunities. This may be true, or it may be false (israel forbids journalists from reporting from Gaza and often attacks them) but it is included in the "everything else" referred to in the above post. Nothing Hamas does detracts from israel's obligations I mentioned. That's why it's not a "gross oversimplification". Besides, israel has been systematically using aid points as attack points.
- saubeidl 1y agoNo. Not starving people is a bare minimum. A better solution would be literally doing nothing.
- dbrail 1y ago[flagged]
- daveguy 1y agoIs it an eye for an eye or 10,000 eyes for an eye? It was the Hamas military that committed the first war crimes attacking civilians. Netanyahu is committing war crimes in response starving the entire population. That is unacceptable.
- sojournerc 1y agoYou take it out on innocent citizens who are being used as human shields by those terrorists? Maybe there's a better way.
- maximilianburke 1y agoHow many Gazans need to die before it's mission accomplished?
- 9dev 1y ago> If you really believe that Gazans are being starved This is so disgusting. There is an endless flood of proof from reliable media all over the world. It's a fact, not a matter of belief. > Let's hear what you think Israel should do. A government with members that are publicly outspoken for a genocide in Gaza simply cannot be trusted on this issue. It's like letting the wolf pack guard the sheep pen and hoping they will handle the situation responsibly. They will not. You want to hear my solution? Israel should elect new leaders that aren't as empathically crippled, allow foreign (and domestic) help into Gaza, stop all actions of war, and get into talks with Abbas. Israel should incorporate and take responsibility for Gaza as a part of Israel, following Herzl's vision of Israel as a pluralistic state. A one-state solution is inevitable if there is ever supposed to be peace. But this isn't going to happen. Instead, Gaza is out for a long, slow death by attrition; Israel is once again going to build illegal settlements and occupy territory, and wage war against local militias.