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I am personally surprised this isn't [flagged] [dead] already, I would have anticipated that too. Political topics tend to be flagged immediately, even when the
by lynndotpy 1y ago
I am personally surprised this isn't [flagged] [dead] already, I would have anticipated that too. Political topics tend to be flagged immediately, even when the politics had clear and immediate implication for the tech community.
Maybe this is a sign that consensus is shifting. It seems now that it's more politically risky to deny Israel's committing warcrimes than it is to acknowledge it.
While I agree with much of what this blogpost says, I am surprised it's still up, especially since there doesn't seem to be much implication for the tech community, or discussion about what it means. (It is significant that one of the countries most central to the worldwide tech community is committing genocide and is increasingly seen as a pariah state, but even then, that is not what's being discussed here.)
EDIT: I spoke to soon, this was [flagged] just as I posted my comment.
- runarberg 1y agoWhat is also disappointing what goes unflagged in these threads. Early in the genocide, whenever I called it a genocide I got my post [flagged][dead], that happens less often now. But it is clear by now that anyone who engages in genocide denalism at this point has an extreme and hateful opinion which shouldn’t be allowed anywhere (including a tech forum). And yet frequently I come across these hateful posts which are left unflagged for days. I think this is a failure in moderation.
- tomhow 1y ago> I think this is a failure in moderation. Thousands of comments are posted each day and there are two moderators. Have you emailed us about the bad comments you see?
- trustinmenowpls 1y agoJust to be clear, are you openly stating that you agree that someone who doesn't engage in blood libel will be banned?
- tomhow 1y agoHonestly, I'm just here to uphold the HN guidelines, which are pretty clear and simple. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- zhengiszen 1y agoWith the likes like Palantir,human moderation will not be needed any more... Being peo human rights or antiwar will flag us directly for more nefarious goals...
- runarberg 1y agoI will do so in the future. I see that the posts I was calling out for this the past couple of days have been taken down now. I assume you did that. Thank you for that.
- tptacek 1y agoWhat were some of those flagged/dead comments you're referring to?
- runarberg 1y agoIt is hard to find them because flagged comments don‘t show up in the search. But I specifically remembered this one here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40586013 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40586013 Here is another one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40503387 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40503387
- tptacek 1y agoIf you're interested in a diagnosis, both are one-liner comments, one directly compares the war in Gaza to the Holocaust, which is a live grenade to throw into any conversation, and the other accuses the community on this site of being broadly complicit.
- runarberg 1y agoSorry, I’m not looking for analysis, but rather blame. If HN moderation is more keen on taking down comments that asks hard questions about the community then comments which are doing a known form of hate speech (which genocide denial undoubtedly is) that is precisely the failure in moderation which I was talking about. That is to say, if my posts were correctly taken down for e.g. being rude, then I would expect posts which engage in seriously harmful rhetoric to be taken down much quicker. Note that when I say moderation I am talking about moderation in a broad sense, not just what the admins do, but also when user flags take posts down. As a community HN should be very quick on taking down posts which engage in genocide denialism.
- tptacek 1y agoPeople disagree with you.
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