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Is "emotional" supposed to trivialise the complaints? People would vote the same way now, most likely. The opinion hasn't shifted around much…

blipvert 1y ago
Oh, it really has shifted. A lot. https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/52410-nine-years-after-the-eu-referendum-where-does-public-opinion-stand-on-brexit https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/52410-nine-years-afte...
- graublau 1y ago
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  - blipvert 1y ago
    Yes, founded by a Brexit voting Tory I see your point.
p_j_w 1y ago
>People would vote the same way now, most likely. The opinion hasn't shifted around much… I don't know where you're getting this information, but it's in stark contrast to all of the statistics I've ever seen on the matter. https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-... Even Nigel Farage has called it a disaster. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-leave-remain-bregret-b2343546.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-leave-...
- graublau 1y ago
  Nigel Farage's entire career was built on Euroskepticism and you claim in 2025 he would vote REMAIN — what are you talking about??
  - gambiting 1y ago
    >>you claim in 2025 he would vote REMAIN Are you sure you replied to the right comment? Where have they claimed that?
    - graublau 1y ago
      >People would vote the same way now my original comment
      - ben_w 1y ago
        "People" is a collective, "Farage" is one person. For people collectively to change their behaviour does not require 100% of the individuals to also change their behaviour. Not even when the singular person is also calling the thing a failure.
  - ben_w 1y ago
    The original opinion poll in the other comment seemed quite clear: https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-... Here's some Farage quotes, so you can see that there is no contradiction between the comment you were replying to (him saying it was a disaster is compatible with all this) and him still being a leaver: “I don’t think that for a moment,” Mr Farage replied when he was asked if the UK would have been better off staying in the EU, the world’s largest single market area. “But what I do think is we haven’t actually benefitted from Brexit economically, what we could have done.” “I mean, what Brexit’s proved, I’m afraid, is that our politicians are about as useless as the commissioners in Brussels were,” he added. “We’ve mismanaged this totally, and if you look at simple things…such as takeovers, such as corporation tax, we are driving business away from our country. “Arguably, now we’re back in control, we’re regulating our own businesses even more than they were as EU members. Brexit has failed.” - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bbc-newsnight-brexit-failed-b2339654.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-...
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blipvert 1y ago

Oh, it really has shifted. A lot. https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/52410-nine-years-after-the-eu-referendum-where-does-public-opinion-stand-on-brexit https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/52410-nine-years-afte...

graublau 1y ago
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- blipvert 1y ago
  Yes, founded by a Brexit voting Tory I see your point.

p_j_w 1y ago

>People would vote the same way now, most likely. The opinion hasn't shifted around much… I don't know where you're getting this information, but it's in stark contrast to all of the statistics I've ever seen on the matter. https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-... Even Nigel Farage has called it a disaster. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-leave-remain-bregret-b2343546.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-leave-...

graublau 1y ago
Nigel Farage's entire career was built on Euroskepticism and you claim in 2025 he would vote REMAIN — what are you talking about??
- gambiting 1y ago
  >>you claim in 2025 he would vote REMAIN Are you sure you replied to the right comment? Where have they claimed that?
  - graublau 1y ago
    >People would vote the same way now my original comment
    - ben_w 1y ago
      "People" is a collective, "Farage" is one person. For people collectively to change their behaviour does not require 100% of the individuals to also change their behaviour. Not even when the singular person is also calling the thing a failure.
- ben_w 1y ago
  The original opinion poll in the other comment seemed quite clear: https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-... Here's some Farage quotes, so you can see that there is no contradiction between the comment you were replying to (him saying it was a disaster is compatible with all this) and him still being a leaver: “I don’t think that for a moment,” Mr Farage replied when he was asked if the UK would have been better off staying in the EU, the world’s largest single market area. “But what I do think is we haven’t actually benefitted from Brexit economically, what we could have done.” “I mean, what Brexit’s proved, I’m afraid, is that our politicians are about as useless as the commissioners in Brussels were,” he added. “We’ve mismanaged this totally, and if you look at simple things…such as takeovers, such as corporation tax, we are driving business away from our country. “Arguably, now we’re back in control, we’re regulating our own businesses even more than they were as EU members. Brexit has failed.” - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-bbc-newsnight-brexit-failed-b2339654.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-...
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