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>I remember seeing the first transgender woman competing in weightlifting, on the olympic stage. So like the most elite of the most elite competition, in a spor
by gruez 1y ago
>I remember seeing the first transgender woman competing in weightlifting, on the olympic stage. So like the most elite of the most elite competition, in a sport where you'd think muscle mass, skeletal size, and testosterone would matter the most. And she finished dead last.
What happens when other transgender women (sincere or not) realize that they can compete in women's completions, and that their past testosterone levels gives them an advantage over the typical cis women? The first transgender women contestant might only be 90th percentile, but surely her success will attract people from the 99th percentile and beyond?
- sunshowers 1y agoA 99th percentile trans woman would be competing with other people who have 99th percentile biological advantages, is what I'm trying to say.
- EnergyAmy 1y ago99th percentile men will beat 99th percentile women in sports 100% of the time. There is no fairness.
- sunshowers 1y agoWe're talking about 99th percentile women competing against each other though?
- EnergyAmy 1y agoIf you're talking about trans women competing against women, then no. That's men competing against women. I suspect you're quite aware of that and intentionally confusing the two for rhetorical effect, but that's a great example of why protecting the plain-sense definition of words matters. "Woman" means adult female human, which categorically excludes men regardless of their gender identity.
- Volundr 1y agoI'm not aware of anyone advocating to let Eddie Hall join a women's powerlifting meet. Generally athletic bodies have been establishing some criteria, ex being on testosterone suppression for a certain number of years. Is it enough to remove the advantage? I can't begin to say. But acting like its as simple as "99th percentile men competing against 99th percentile women" are pretty clearly arguing in bad faith.