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> these are apps of commercial data-sharing/selling businesses, not some 'official' gov app for the benefit of the citizens. While there are a few of commercia
by shkkmo 1y ago
> these are apps of commercial data-sharing/selling businesses, not some 'official' gov app for the benefit of the citizens.
While there are a few of commercial apps that can integrate now, The goal is to have every navigation/gps app have the ability to do this. This can also be done by privacy friendly apps.
> Why do these commercial entities get to influence public traffic lights?
The commercial entities don't influence anything, they provide a tool for their users to influence the lights.
> And due to the inherent red-queen arms race
What arms race is inherent here? Traffic isn't (or shouldn't be) a competition but a cooperation.
Your whole comment seems weird because the main point of the article us that most people seem unwilling to change navigation apps to take advantage of this feature so widespread adoption will wait till the apps people are already using (and which already get all that data) support the standard.
- PeterStuer 1y ago"This can also be done by privacy friendly apps." But it is not. "The commercial entities don't influence anything, they provide a tool for their users to influence the lights." While milking their data with gov backed incentives. Pay us with your data, and we will provide you tweaking traffic lights. What exactly are you running defense for? "Traffic isn't (or shouldn't be) a competition but a cooperation" Have you driven in Belgium? It is what it is, not what it "should" be.
- shkkmo 1y ago> While milking their data with gov backed incentives. Again, the whole thrust of this article is that people aren't incentivized yet to use or switch navigation apps. > But it is not. Yet. If that is something you want, go fund some opensource mapping apps to add the feature. Without detailed technical information, this seems like a reasonable approach to solve a hard problem that isn't well solved now. Opt-in traffic data collection via an open standard api seems like be best case scenario here. I'd be interested in specific criticism about how mapping apps are given access to the API, what exact data has to be shared to enable or other specific aspects of this program. Your knee-jerk reactionary talking points aren't interesting though.