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Here's an updated list of relatively popular phone manufactures and their bootloader unlocking potential. https://github.com/melontini/bootloader-unlock-wall-o

Here's an updated list of relatively popular phone manufactures and their bootloader unlocking potential. https://github.com/melontini/bootloader-unlock-wall-of-shame?tab=readme-ov-file https://github.com/melontini/bootloader-unlock-wall-of-shame...

sugarpimpdorsey 1y ago
Was anyone else shocked to see Microsoft in the top tier of their list of unlock-friendly phone manufacturers?
- DoctorOW 1y ago
  I mean for the Microsoft Android phones it kinda makes sense, since they're not exactly shipping Android by choice. They'd much rather you use the Windows Phones which this says ARE locked down.
  - eddythompson80 1y ago
    Wasn’t windows phone discontinued like 10 years ago?
    - OoooooooO 1y ago
      Yes.
    - DoctorOW 1y ago
      Apologies for being unclear, it's true Microsoft didn't have the option of Windows Phone for their Surface Duo devices, so they had no choice but to use Android. To clarify, when I phrase something as being an unwilling outcome it does not mean both were equally viable options and they picked the one they wanted, rather that Microsoft's hand was forced due to this development. I hope this helps.
      - eddythompson80 1y ago
        That literally makes no sense. What forced their hands?
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- spwa4 1y ago
  Given that they're a monopolist? No, that's exactly the sort of tactic you'd expect from them.
mrheosuper 1y ago
Surprise that Oppo is in avoid list, while oneplus is in safe list. Both of them are from same company. This proves there is no technical difficulty to provide unlock bootloader
subscribed 1y ago
They mix up Google-vendor (pixels are absolutely the best and most unlocking-friendly hardware at this point), with Google Play Services services/limitations (ie dominant player in android ecosystem) AND Google, the dominant contributor to AOSP project. And it's also partially false, as Gemini works just fine after unlocking/relocking, and all the advanced features (full performance of the cameras, NPU access, secure element) work even on non-Google OS. Things that do not work (mostly wallet) are valid issue, but then again, they work just fine after flashing OEM firmware And relocking The bootloader. So I can only guess the quality of the contribution is similar with other phone brands.

sugarpimpdorsey 1y ago

Was anyone else shocked to see Microsoft in the top tier of their list of unlock-friendly phone manufacturers?

DoctorOW 1y ago
I mean for the Microsoft Android phones it kinda makes sense, since they're not exactly shipping Android by choice. They'd much rather you use the Windows Phones which this says ARE locked down.
- eddythompson80 1y ago
  Wasn’t windows phone discontinued like 10 years ago?
  - OoooooooO 1y ago
    Yes.
  - DoctorOW 1y ago
    Apologies for being unclear, it's true Microsoft didn't have the option of Windows Phone for their Surface Duo devices, so they had no choice but to use Android. To clarify, when I phrase something as being an unwilling outcome it does not mean both were equally viable options and they picked the one they wanted, rather that Microsoft's hand was forced due to this development. I hope this helps.
    - eddythompson80 1y ago
      That literally makes no sense. What forced their hands?
      - deleted 1y ago
        [deleted]
spwa4 1y ago
Given that they're a monopolist? No, that's exactly the sort of tactic you'd expect from them.

mrheosuper 1y ago

Surprise that Oppo is in avoid list, while oneplus is in safe list. Both of them are from same company. This proves there is no technical difficulty to provide unlock bootloader

subscribed 1y ago

They mix up Google-vendor (pixels are absolutely the best and most unlocking-friendly hardware at this point), with Google Play Services services/limitations (ie dominant player in android ecosystem) AND Google, the dominant contributor to AOSP project. And it's also partially false, as Gemini works just fine after unlocking/relocking, and all the advanced features (full performance of the cameras, NPU access, secure element) work even on non-Google OS. Things that do not work (mostly wallet) are valid issue, but then again, they work just fine after flashing OEM firmware And relocking The bootloader. So I can only guess the quality of the contribution is similar with other phone brands.