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>Slop Generator Using that term through the article makes it hard to take seriously. I know nothing of this project but right off the bat it seems like a proje

>Slop Generator Using that term through the article makes it hard to take seriously. I know nothing of this project but right off the bat it seems like a project that has little credibility just because of the tone used throughout. There's no need to turn it into a full-on tirade against this set of technologies either. Is this an appropriate place to complain about Reddit comments? Ironically, the author could well benefit from running this slop through an llm to make it more professional.

doesnt_know 1y ago
Interesting that you could have posted about any of the points being made in the link but you choose this one. Personally I think the term is well deserved and am glad it continues to be popularised.
- Fade_Dance 1y ago
  To be clear I don't mind it as a casual term, I'm simply saying that, to me, it comes off as puerile in this context. It's akin to putting out a press release for a project with "Suckerberg" written everytime Meta comes up, or for an older reference, Micro$oft. It personally made the article hard to take seriously, and cast a bad first impression on the project. It may not come across that way to all - I've simply never been a fan of that highly editorialized and charged communication style when it comes to community management. It almost has a combative tone, sort of like when CMs argue with users that have opinions they don't like. Take it or leave it. _____________ As for the individual points: The initial concerns about copyright are convincing. The point about resource impact ending with "these resources would literally be better spent anywhere else" devolved into meaningless grandstanding. I wouldn't mind seeing a project take a stand because of environmental impact, but again it just ends up sounding like the author has a bone to pick rather than a genuine concern about the environment. If that's not the case, then that's a prime example of why tone matters in communication. The Reddit comment paragraph where the author berates users for using LLMs on social media is just odd and out of place. Maybe better suited to the off-topic section of their community forum/discord. And the last point I simply disagree with. Highly knowledgeable people in a field that requires precision use LLMs every day. It's a tool like any other. I use it in financial trading (ex: it's great for scanning reams of SEC filings and earnings report transcripts), I know others who use it successfully in trading, and I know firms like Jane Street have it deeply integrated in their process.
RUnconcerned 1y ago
> Ironically, the author could well benefit from running this slop through an llm to make it more professional. Have you considered that it is not the intent of the author to appear professional? That running it through the Slop Generator would obfuscate their intent to be snarky towards those who outsource all their thinking to Slop Generators?
- JimDabell 1y ago
  > Have you considered that it is not the intent of the author to appear professional? They have no obligation to sound professional but if they intended to appear incredibly childish then they succeeded, and people will judge them accordingly.
electricboots 1y ago
I think for a project like asahi, and frankly any project with a reasonable blast radius, software or otherwise, the article is on point. The authors lack of professionalism is a reasonable counter to the completely unhinged mainstream takes on ai/llms that we hear daily. I think the Reddit example provides useful, generally relatable context, otherwise missing to the average reader. My opinions are not to detract from the use of the tech or engineers working in the space, but motivated by a disgust for the hype.
- Fade_Dance 1y ago
  The mainstream seems sort of anti-AI from what I get in the non-tech sphere. Ex: artists generally hate it. Writers generally hate it. Many people think it's damaging to society and are very pessimistic. Marketing is completely ridiculous when it comes to the topic, but when isn't that enough in the case with the next shiny thing. They even extolled the life changing virtues of 3D TVs for one of the cycles. I honestly hear far more unhinged AI doomer stuff and constant pessimism that makes me sort of sad (after all it is cool tech that will do a lot of new things) than AI sycophantism, do you not? If so, where? Granted this is a US perspective, where there is currently a deep seated pessimistic undercurrent about just about everything right now.
  - electricboots 1y ago
    I will go as far to say as every time I’ve used ai it has provided critically incorrect output, never anything of use.
skerit 1y ago
I agree. They have some good reasons on why AI-generated code should not be used in this project, but the page just devolves into a "All AI is bad" and the constant use of "Slop generator" just makes me think of all the people that used to write "Micro$oft" (Well, I did too. When I was twelve)
retired_account 1y ago
> I know nothing of this project It's an impressive one, to say the least. It's worth taking a closer look and weighing the excellence created by the human mind before completely dismissing the article's arguments. > Ironically, the author could well benefit from running this slop through an llm to make it more professional. True, that would effectively strip out all the heart and soul from the prose.
- FeteCommuniste 1y ago
  It would read so much nicer with a dozen em dashes and a bunch of “not only _, but _” constructions.
  - Fade_Dance 1y ago
    It's not a high bar that the author failed to cross, correct.
    - retired_account 1y ago
      Bulleting every list with emoji might be nice, too, no?
rimbo789 1y ago
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- TrackerFF 1y ago
  So what happens when AI slop is nicer looking, and more robust than human slop?
  - rimbo789 1y ago
    If a human makes it, it is inherently more valuable than what ai produces.
nurettin 1y ago
Here's some context into what they mean by "AI slop" https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/07/14/death-by-a-thousand-slops/ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/07/14/death-by-a-thousand-s... Reading the first two vulnerability reports makes it very clear.
- andybak 1y ago
  Except they don't mean "specific examples of AI content are slop". They unambiguously say that all uses of generative AI are slop.
  - nurettin 1y ago
    That is indeed controversial, I'm just saying that after seeing enough examples like the above one might be persuaded to think that way.
  - queenkjuul 1y ago
    I've yet to see output from a generative AI that wasn't slop
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    - andybak 1y ago
      So all AI generated code is "slop"? Without exception? Without any nuance? It's hard to take opinions like that seriously and not just dismiss them as hyperbole.
      - queenkjuul 1y ago
        All the code I've seen from an LLM has been slop. Reread what i said
        andybak 1y ago
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washadjeffmad 1y ago
That mindset is itself part of the problem. A healthy sign of free speech is poor taste.

doesnt_know 1y ago

Interesting that you could have posted about any of the points being made in the link but you choose this one. Personally I think the term is well deserved and am glad it continues to be popularised.

Fade_Dance 1y ago
To be clear I don't mind it as a casual term, I'm simply saying that, to me, it comes off as puerile in this context. It's akin to putting out a press release for a project with "Suckerberg" written everytime Meta comes up, or for an older reference, Micro$oft. It personally made the article hard to take seriously, and cast a bad first impression on the project. It may not come across that way to all - I've simply never been a fan of that highly editorialized and charged communication style when it comes to community management. It almost has a combative tone, sort of like when CMs argue with users that have opinions they don't like. Take it or leave it. _____________ As for the individual points: The initial concerns about copyright are convincing. The point about resource impact ending with "these resources would literally be better spent anywhere else" devolved into meaningless grandstanding. I wouldn't mind seeing a project take a stand because of environmental impact, but again it just ends up sounding like the author has a bone to pick rather than a genuine concern about the environment. If that's not the case, then that's a prime example of why tone matters in communication. The Reddit comment paragraph where the author berates users for using LLMs on social media is just odd and out of place. Maybe better suited to the off-topic section of their community forum/discord. And the last point I simply disagree with. Highly knowledgeable people in a field that requires precision use LLMs every day. It's a tool like any other. I use it in financial trading (ex: it's great for scanning reams of SEC filings and earnings report transcripts), I know others who use it successfully in trading, and I know firms like Jane Street have it deeply integrated in their process.

RUnconcerned 1y ago

> Ironically, the author could well benefit from running this slop through an llm to make it more professional. Have you considered that it is not the intent of the author to appear professional? That running it through the Slop Generator would obfuscate their intent to be snarky towards those who outsource all their thinking to Slop Generators?

JimDabell 1y ago
> Have you considered that it is not the intent of the author to appear professional? They have no obligation to sound professional but if they intended to appear incredibly childish then they succeeded, and people will judge them accordingly.

electricboots 1y ago

I think for a project like asahi, and frankly any project with a reasonable blast radius, software or otherwise, the article is on point. The authors lack of professionalism is a reasonable counter to the completely unhinged mainstream takes on ai/llms that we hear daily. I think the Reddit example provides useful, generally relatable context, otherwise missing to the average reader. My opinions are not to detract from the use of the tech or engineers working in the space, but motivated by a disgust for the hype.

Fade_Dance 1y ago
The mainstream seems sort of anti-AI from what I get in the non-tech sphere. Ex: artists generally hate it. Writers generally hate it. Many people think it's damaging to society and are very pessimistic. Marketing is completely ridiculous when it comes to the topic, but when isn't that enough in the case with the next shiny thing. They even extolled the life changing virtues of 3D TVs for one of the cycles. I honestly hear far more unhinged AI doomer stuff and constant pessimism that makes me sort of sad (after all it is cool tech that will do a lot of new things) than AI sycophantism, do you not? If so, where? Granted this is a US perspective, where there is currently a deep seated pessimistic undercurrent about just about everything right now.
- electricboots 1y ago
  I will go as far to say as every time I’ve used ai it has provided critically incorrect output, never anything of use.

skerit 1y ago

I agree. They have some good reasons on why AI-generated code should not be used in this project, but the page just devolves into a "All AI is bad" and the constant use of "Slop generator" just makes me think of all the people that used to write "Micro$oft" (Well, I did too. When I was twelve)

retired_account 1y ago

> I know nothing of this project It's an impressive one, to say the least. It's worth taking a closer look and weighing the excellence created by the human mind before completely dismissing the article's arguments. > Ironically, the author could well benefit from running this slop through an llm to make it more professional. True, that would effectively strip out all the heart and soul from the prose.

FeteCommuniste 1y ago
It would read so much nicer with a dozen em dashes and a bunch of “not only _, but _” constructions.
- Fade_Dance 1y ago
  It's not a high bar that the author failed to cross, correct.
  - retired_account 1y ago
    Bulleting every list with emoji might be nice, too, no?

rimbo789 1y ago

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TrackerFF 1y ago
So what happens when AI slop is nicer looking, and more robust than human slop?
- rimbo789 1y ago
  If a human makes it, it is inherently more valuable than what ai produces.

nurettin 1y ago

Here's some context into what they mean by "AI slop" https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/07/14/death-by-a-thousand-slops/ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/07/14/death-by-a-thousand-s... Reading the first two vulnerability reports makes it very clear.

andybak 1y ago
Except they don't mean "specific examples of AI content are slop". They unambiguously say that all uses of generative AI are slop.
- nurettin 1y ago
  That is indeed controversial, I'm just saying that after seeing enough examples like the above one might be persuaded to think that way.
- queenkjuul 1y ago
  I've yet to see output from a generative AI that wasn't slop
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  - andybak 1y ago
    So all AI generated code is "slop"? Without exception? Without any nuance? It's hard to take opinions like that seriously and not just dismiss them as hyperbole.
    - queenkjuul 1y ago
      All the code I've seen from an LLM has been slop. Reread what i said
      - andybak 1y ago
        [flagged]

washadjeffmad 1y ago

That mindset is itself part of the problem. A healthy sign of free speech is poor taste.