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Tbh, there's a non zero chance it would've been successful if not for insane policies like de baathification.
by ViscountPenguin 1y ago
Tbh, there's a non zero chance it would've been successful if not for insane policies like de baathification.
- ido 1y agoIraq's current government is still siginficantly better than Saddam's regime, depsite being currupt and somewhat dysfunctional (and things have improved over the years in case you dig up an article from a decade ago about ISIS).
- ashoeafoot 1y agoIs it: a) a military dictatorship b) a fanatics hive c) a familyclan run mafia state. or a hybrid?
- ido 1y agoIt's a parliamentary democracy with free elections and independent media. It's also chaotic, corrupt, and violent. It's much worse than Sweden or Switzerland but better than many other Arab countries.
- dontlaugh 1y agoTalk to some Iraqis, they’ll tell you they preferred Saddam to the current US puppet government. And of course preferred that their families hadn’t been killed and homes destroyed.
- ido 1y agoDepends which Iraqis you talk to, plenty were killed and had their homes destroyed by Saddam.
- rayiner 1y agoFor the most part, those were the non-Arab minority, predominantly Kurds.
- ashoeafoot 1y agoYou can kill those, they ain't gods chosen masterrace.
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- actionfromafar 1y agoHear-hear! Complete own-goal. Let's take everything we learned from the rebuilding of Europe after WW2 and ... ignore it.
- volleyball 1y agoAs i mentioned in another post, if you measure success as creating a strong, prosperous, independent, viable democracy - then Iraq was an utter failure and so was Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, Jordan, Egypt and Iran. Which begs the question why does the US pursue the same failed policies over and over again. It turns out we were asking the wrong questions in 2005. If you measure success from the purview of the Yinon plan to establish Israeli hegemony over the entire middle-east then everything aforementioned - including all the death, terrorism, suffering, sectarian and religious strife, massacres and genocides, refugees crises, the rise of ISIS, the recent Al Qaeeda takeover of Syria - everything, was a resounding success. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan
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