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Is this really any different to pre-covid, I could negotiate $3k off a Toyota Sienna minivan and have my pick of color tomorrow and now there is a several month
by daft_pink 1y ago
Is this really any different to pre-covid, I could negotiate $3k off a Toyota Sienna minivan and have my pick of color tomorrow and now there is a several month to a year waiting list and I have to pay $5k to 10k over MSRP and MSRP is up 20% since 2019?
- qmr 1y agoYou should never pay over MSRP. You can get Siennas for $1-2k under MSRP. Shop around.
- tomrod 1y agoWhere?
- toast0 1y agoIf nothing else, check out fb groups. There's a toyotas at msrp group where dealers willing to work with long distance buyers post.
- paulryanrogers 1y agoI paid MSRP but had to go to a dealer further away. The nearest one had several thousands in markup. It magically evaporated when they found out where I was going, but trust had been lost.
- n20benn 1y agoPre-sales tax + tag, or post?
- tayo42 1y agoThat seems crazy lol, why do siennas have a wait list? Is there really that much demand for a minivan? Or is it a supply thing?
- lotsofpulp 1y agoI doubt one has to pay more than MSRP for a Sienna in Jul 2025, but in the minivan market, there is insufficient demand to incentivize automakers to make more of equivalent quality to Toyota. And even if they do, it would take decades to match Toyota's brand reputation. There is Toyota Siena, Honda Odyssey, Kia Carnival, and Chrysler Pacifica, and I think that is it. Among those, the people wanting to buy a Toyota are maybe considering a Honda, but otherwise they are only going to buy a Toyota, and they will pay a premium for Toyota. Chrysler and Kia are downmarket and not a consideration. And minivans are not a huge market, so Toyota probably does not allocate too many resources to making more Siennas since they do not expect to sell many more at their desired price.