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Eclipse (as in ecosystem) is fairly popular in Enterprise, but since it exposes all the knobs, and is a bona fide IDE which has some learning curve, people stay

Eclipse (as in ecosystem) is fairly popular in Enterprise, but since it exposes all the knobs, and is a bona fide IDE which has some learning curve, people stay away from it. Also it used to be kinda heavy, but it became lighter because of Moore's law and good code management practices all over the board. I'm planning to deploy Theia in its web based form if possible, but still didn't have the time to tinker with that one.

v3ss0n 1y ago
Theia is different from eclipse IDE it's written in JS not in Java and didn't share any code base of eclipse which is fully Java
- bayindirh 1y ago
  Yes, I know. This is why I used "(as in ecosystem)" in the first paragraph. It was a bit late when I wrote this comment, and it turned out to be very blurry meaning wise. My bad.
pjmlp 1y ago
Also to note that VSCode main architect was one of Eclipse architects, and co-author on GoF famous book, Erich Gamma.
- bayindirh 1y ago
  Didn't know that. Now, that's interesting. Using Eclipse as "the Java LSP" in VSCode makes more sense now. Nevertheless, as much as I respect Erich for what he did for Eclipse, I won't be able to follow him to VSCode, since I don't respect Microsoft as much.
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    So not also using Github, LinkedIn, TypeScript (any FE framework that uses it), any Microsoft owned studios games, no Linux kernel contributions, GHC contributions,.... It is kid of hard to avoid nowadays. Here a session with him related to VSCode history, "The Story of Visual Studio Code with Erich Gamma and Kai Maetzel" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTYx7MCIK7Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTYx7MCIK7Y
    - bayindirh 1y ago
      My personal code doesn't get uploaded to GitHub anymore, and I open my LinkedIn twice a year or so. I don't do Web Development, I live in the trenches. Since I don't own a desktop system anymore, I don't honestly game. I'm exposed to them via systemd and Linux Kernel, yes, but at least both are licensed with GPL. At least I'm trying to minimize my exposure. For more context, please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44634786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44634786 Thanks for the video, btw. I'll take a look the moment I have time.

v3ss0n 1y ago

Theia is different from eclipse IDE it's written in JS not in Java and didn't share any code base of eclipse which is fully Java

bayindirh 1y ago
Yes, I know. This is why I used "(as in ecosystem)" in the first paragraph. It was a bit late when I wrote this comment, and it turned out to be very blurry meaning wise. My bad.

pjmlp 1y ago

Also to note that VSCode main architect was one of Eclipse architects, and co-author on GoF famous book, Erich Gamma.

bayindirh 1y ago
Didn't know that. Now, that's interesting. Using Eclipse as "the Java LSP" in VSCode makes more sense now. Nevertheless, as much as I respect Erich for what he did for Eclipse, I won't be able to follow him to VSCode, since I don't respect Microsoft as much.
- pjmlp 1y ago
  So not also using Github, LinkedIn, TypeScript (any FE framework that uses it), any Microsoft owned studios games, no Linux kernel contributions, GHC contributions,.... It is kid of hard to avoid nowadays. Here a session with him related to VSCode history, "The Story of Visual Studio Code with Erich Gamma and Kai Maetzel" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTYx7MCIK7Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTYx7MCIK7Y
  - bayindirh 1y ago
    My personal code doesn't get uploaded to GitHub anymore, and I open my LinkedIn twice a year or so. I don't do Web Development, I live in the trenches. Since I don't own a desktop system anymore, I don't honestly game. I'm exposed to them via systemd and Linux Kernel, yes, but at least both are licensed with GPL. At least I'm trying to minimize my exposure. For more context, please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44634786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44634786 Thanks for the video, btw. I'll take a look the moment I have time.